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Btw...not sure if someone said it already, but I think the idea is to make Sochan the next Bobo (which also played some pointguard early in his career) rather than the next Draymon.
Part of being a point guard is being a threat. Sochan gives up to easily on attacking the paint using speed and size.
But that's true of the entire team, including Victor. Get denied even slightly and it's time to stop all momentum toward the basket. That's not how you hoop.
Btw...not sure if someone said it already, but I think the idea is to make Sochan the next Bobo (which also played some pointguard early in his career) rather than the next Draymon.
it was easier for bobo to take guys off the dribble when he was being defended by bigs. its not like he was taking on guards off the dribble. and he was a way more skilled post player and scorer than sochan, by orders of magnitude
He was actually a PG tho... That's the difference... His position changed to forward after reaching the NBA... He naturally has good passing ability... Sohan doesn't
Not in his second year. He was considered a bust, and shipped out. Impatient folks in the ATL front office,just like here.
Doubt Wemby plays much center long term and his backup has little value. Sochan at PG is the only path to usefullness on this teams construction. FO and Pop knows this, fans fail to realize it. This needs to work or Sochan should be traded because there is a huge gap on his value on a trade and on this team.
This is so egregious it’s borderline re ed. Why do the people here have to go to such an extreme view or nothing at all? Sure you can argue that there are questions about the amount of minutes Wemby will play center and how that works if Sochan is at the 4.
There are 48 minutes in a game. The real benefit of Sochan is his versatility in where he can fit on the court. It could be 5 minutes at PG with Wemby on the court. It could be 10 minutes at the 4 alongside Bassey. It could a quick spurt at the 3 if Wemby, Collins and Tre are on the floor at the same time.
The whole point with this team not making big moves and seeing what they got is to take a long term evaluation of fit and where. Without burying themselves in cap stress because they over leveraged simply to make flashy moves on paper.
That’s the thing fans here really fail to see.
Sochan at point doesn’t need to work or he gets traded. Developing and experimenting are the plan. I do not see Sochan as a long term solution at point. I don’t believe pop or the FO believes that either.
That is still 21 min, 10 in his natural position. That is reduced further in a playoff series. Where starters play close to 40.
Like virtually all of the hybrid bigs, he'll almost certainly eventually transition to more of (exclusively?) C long term, the question is when.
Sochan can potentially get by as a nominal SF if they get a lead guard that's a laser, but even then, they'd be best off closing with the former at PF and Wembanyama at C.
I wasn’t breaking down exactly how it should work. The league and every team in it are fluid in how minutes and positions are played out. It could be any number of combinations on any given night.
The takeaway wasn’t 21 minutes in this box 5 in this box 3 in this box.
The takeaway is that your assertion that Sochan had better figure out how to be a full time point guard or be traded for pennies on the dollar is absurd and without merit.
sochan could still provide value off the bench if he comes in and plays with high energy and hustle. he could be the backup 4 to wemby, or play alongside wemby as the 4 in smaller lineups that we've already seen with wemby at the 5
those two roles alone would get him over 20 minutes per game and be a key player, if he plays at a good enough level. look at jeff green with denver last year in that role.
but its up to him to prove the draft pundits right, that he can come in and be an effective, disruptive, and versatile defender. his offense just needs to be opportunistic. good cuts (he already can do this), crash the boards, get out and run on the break. and if somebody can break down the defense and he gets the ball with space in front of him, he can take advantage of that with his solid ball handling and passing when the defense is already in recovery mode. i just dont think he's ever going to be the guy that causes the defense to get into recovery mode
Spurs need to add a true PG with pg skills and move Sochan to the bench or trade him. Sochan lost his starting position when the Spurs got Wemby.
Spurs need upgrades to the starting 1, 5 and need another wing player who can shoot to this roster. Sochan is no longer a good fit in the starting lineup if the Spurs want to play Wemby at PF. He's a backup now at his natural position.
People here get too attached to players on the roster even if they haven't proven anything yet.
Spurstalkers STILL dont get the concept of
POSITIONLESS nba basketball
and the word “experiment”
they freak out at this “outside the box” way of thinking….
wemby can roam and play wherever and sochan can be penciled in as “pg” but that is not really important
FOR NOW!
The “positionless basketball” theory has a fatal flaw. It requires that all five players be able to shoot and score equally well. Ain’t no such animal.
As a practical matter, it really does make a difference who shoots. For Sochan to play positionless basketball for the Spurs he’d have to be able to shoot and score as well as Vassell does, so it wouldn’t matter which one shoots.
But it does matter. And everybody knows it.
There’s no positionless basketball to be found on the Spurs, or anyplace else. Unless Kevon Looney has started shooting 3pters as well as Steph Curry and I just haven’t noticed.
wrong
it requires that all 5 be able to guard all positions and handle the ball well enough to not turn it over
layups and mid rangers are all a player needs to be able to do - they dont even have to break down their opponent as the ball will just move until a shot opens
Warriors small ball worked enough and only curry/thompson were great shooters with raymond, looney, and others able to make 5 foot shots periodically
Um hm. Your personal concept of positionless basketball is that all five players must be equally good at guarding either Tyrese Maxey or Joel Embiid.
Spare me the crazy raving, ok? Just spare me.
do you have ocd?
why do you post the same thing every day?
is this your ritual?
he is an admitted incel, he gets 0 pussy and hates his life. it's all he has. feel sorry for him tbh
That doesn't = doing ludicrous things like starting a 20 year old PF, who can't shoot, as the nominal PG, in a lineup featuring 1 + shooter as is.
That formula has no chance to be a functional half court offense, no matter how much experience they garner.
It hasn't even worked defensively or on the glass, since Collins is a sub par and Sochan a terrible rebounder.
i frequently see media say that Jeremy is fearless... good to hear another player confirm it. He sucks as a PG thoughbut he's young, and Spurs are not in win now mode so im not worried
Do you ing people even watch basketball?
It’s easy to see if you put things in perspective; most posters here don’t. I basically said these things a few days ago…….i frequently see media say that Jeremy is fearless... good to hear another player confirm it. He sucks as a PG though
Oh, so you think we have been seeing NBA-level dribble-drive game? lmao
No one on the team currently can consistently pull off a normal NBA dribble move and get in the paint.
What an insightful contribution to the discussion.
do you have a specific disagreement with what i said?
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