Joey, even if that was all true, you would still work for your Mom. Say hey to Karen for us!Zelensky and Azov still winning you virtuous sjw dumb s? Not that I want Ukraine demolished by the dumbass Russian Army, or anyone else for that matter, but it's been hilarious seeing you pussies simp for such a corrupt state and its cross-dressing theater kid Z.
Ukraine!
Death by a thousand cuts
https://www.cnas.org/publications/re...-tracker-nov23The Russia Stability Tracker
November 2023
In February 2023—one year into Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war on Ukraine—CNAS convened a group of leading U.S. experts on Putin’s Russia and authoritarianism to assess how the war is shaping political stability inside the country. This assessment updates the key pillars of Putin’s stability identified and analyzed in the February 2023 and June 2023 reports and takes into account how events over the last four months have impacted each of these pillars.
The group’s experts did not predict Wagner Head Yevgeny Prigozhin’s failed mutiny in late June 2023. Although the group highlighted his very public and personal criticisms of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and General Valery Gerasimov and the tensions that this created within the system, the group did not anticipate the timing or brazenness of Prigozhin’s challenge. Since the failed mutiny, Russian President Putin and the Kremlin have moved to reassert control, including by likely orchestrating Prigozhin’s death in a plane crash in August. The experts generally agreed that for now, there are no immediate threats to Putin’s hold on power, although the failed mutiny creates greater uncertainty about the long-term stability of the regime. The tracker is followed by an overarching assessment of Putin’s stability by some the group’s experts.
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Again, you're overlooking the fact that this works because Europe is sanctioning Russia. If it wouldn't be, then none of this is economically sound for Europe, much less in the longer term.
A land pipe is substantially more reliable than the logistics around LNG (ports, ships, stations, etc), it's not even close. This is exactly why Germany invested in NordStream and NordStream 2, pre-war.
But, besides that, the overall point was that the US is making money hand over first with this conflict. It's not that we're just loaning money with aid and getting nothing in return.
"NEVER SURRENDER!"
And of course economic ties with democratically elected Europe is what we have always wanted.
We dont need corrupt withering Russia still making money on the cheap from Europe.
We want to trade with Europe in every way possible as long as its financially sound for us.
This is what the RHINOs get that the Trumpers and their Trump ties and steaks dont understand.
They throw their money away defending Trump in all his criminal problems in court and then gripe about the economy? Like Trump is a financially sound investment?
He cant even get a loan in the US so he lies to corrupt German banks!
I say gtfoh to the idiiots...
I'm not overlooking that at all. I supported the sanctions and I still support continuing them until we can leverage them in negotiations with Russia (if it's possible but let's find out). I'm just saying that the energy market in Europe is undergoing structural changes that do benefit the US in the longterm and won't totally go away even if sanctions are eventually lifted.
We really need to make a distinction between the money the government spends and whatever economic benefit that the military industrial complex and others may get. The federal government's finances are terrible and a high interest rate environment means all the money being borrowed to supply and give to Ukraine costs even more.
The amount of money being proposed is not a good investment anymore because what is it even achieving now - a prolonged stalemate? Ukraine can't take back all its territory. This is obvious. So I'm ok with providing a small amount of support to keep Ukraine fighting while it negotiates but I want to see an end to this war even if it means accepting the reality that territory is effectively lost.
Yup.
The MIC and Oil Cos are making a killing.
Not the US government nor the US citizens.
Consider this:
The US government is paying for all salaries of Ukranian officials. Plus all healthcare for Ukranian citizens.
Yet the US government wont even considering paying healthcare for Americans.
We are handing tens of billions to Ukraine on a whim yet to spend just a few billions in America for americans in healthcare, student loans, etc is a ing years long fight
Amen, especially this one---"Yet the US government wont even considering paying healthcare for Americans." Yep, and that is a non starter from the get-go and with a ing stern "NO! NEVER!"Yup.
The MIC and Oil Cos are making a killing.
Not the US government nor the US citizens.
Consider this:
The US government is paying for all salaries of Ukranian officials. Plus all healthcare for Ukranian citizens.
Yet the US government wont even considering paying healthcare for Americans.
We are handing tens of billions to Ukraine on a whim yet to spend just a few billions in America for americans in healthcare, student loans, etc is a ing years long fight
You just posted that Cheniere Energy Inc, which is based in Houston, Texas, is signing contracts for the LNG. It's in your Bloomberg article. They pay taxes, right? It goes into our GDP as well? They're making money and are an American company that employs americans (who also pay taxes)?
It's not like the government has any intentions to reduce military spending either? That's as bipartisan as it gets. So this boils down to kneeling to Russia or not, simple as that.
The US is a rich country with a solid economy, #1 in the world. We're not talking about PoorRussia hereYup.
The MIC and Oil Cos are making a killing.
Not the US government nor the US citizens.
Consider this:
The US government is paying for all salaries of Ukranian officials. Plus all healthcare for Ukranian citizens.
Yet the US government wont even considering paying healthcare for Americans.
We are handing tens of billions to Ukraine on a whim yet to spend just a few billions in America for americans in healthcare, student loans, etc is a ing years long fight
Please. Russia took on the Nazi's in 2 so we didn't have to do the wet work. Instead we did the little Yellow people from 30k.The US is a rich country with a solid economy, #1 in the world. We're not talking about PoorRussia here
PoorRussia at work buying back their .The US is a rich country with a solid economy, #1 in the world. We're not talking about PoorRussia here
Russia is reimporting parts for tanks and missiles previously sold to India and Myanmar (Egypt as well, noted in another article), potentially to improve older weapons and equipment destined for use in Ukraine, the financial news outlet Nikkei Asia reported Monday.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/russia-buys-back-military-parts-exported
"NEVER SURRENDER!"
PoorRussia at work buying back their .
Russia is reimporting parts for tanks and missiles previously sold to India and Myanmar (Egypt as well, noted in another article), potentially to improve older weapons and equipment destined for use in Ukraine, the financial news outlet Nikkei Asia reported Monday.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/russia-buys-back-military-parts-exported
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There is a reason putler and Yam s love the poorly educated.
Ma negro vivek wipping warmongers in the jaw
hater brings it home!!!Ma negro vivek wipping warmongers in the jaw
Christ-a-mighty, this may be the first time an American politico indicts FINALLY over the facts of Nazi's alive and well on the European Continent in Ukraine.
I was first to hand up that indictment upon the North American Continent. Me!
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/08/o...ynn/index.htmlOpinion: Who a ‘stalemate’ in Ukraine really benefits
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Initially, many laughed at the Russian leadership for its failure to understand their Ukrainian opponents, its inability to see Ukrainians as they are in reality, rather than as Russian historical obsessions, propaganda and imperialistic worldviews depicted them.
Yet, many in the West apply the same self-absorbed lens to viewing Russia. They continue to presume President Vladimir Putin acts according to the same rational calculus as they do; that Russian society is as outraged by the war, or at least the sanctions and high death rate, as their societies would be; that the Kremlin elites will turn on the President when his war threatens the types of assets and interests Western elites hold dear.
But Putin isn’t worried about any of these things. He is safely ensconced at the top of his power vertical and preparing for another six-year term.
Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky speaks via video conference during the NATO Parliamentary Assembly, in Copenhagen, Denmark, on Monday, October 9.
Opinion: Zelensky’s inescapable new reality
For now, a static war suits Russia very well: it is socio-politically sustainable (there is currently no need for mobilization and the public are largely happy to accept the war). It is economically sustainable, and it is militarily sustainable due to stockpiles, increased production capacity and supplies from partners like Iran and North Korea.
There is no democratic pressure on Putin to stop the war and no structures even exist through which such pressure could emerge.
For Putin, the war is sustainable, but the peace probably is not. The war provides cover and justification for an increasingly repressive state, weakened welfare system and centralized governance. It consolidates the population against an external enemy.
On the contrary, peace would lead to awkward questions: For what did so many men die? Where are their bodies? And why did the army fail to achieve the stated aims of the ‘special military operation’? In this light, it is understandable that Russia has shown no serious interest in stopping the war.
Putin has said again and again that Ukraine doesn’t exist. We have Russian officials boasting almost weekly of kidnapping Ukrainian children and indoctrinating them to hate their own country. We have pages and pages of genocidal intent from state journalists. Russia has written an entire national security strategy outlining its position that the West is in freefall and now is the time to reclaim their rightful decisive place in a new multipolar order. It has reorganized its education, cultural and foreign policy doctrine to place society on a gradualist war footing.
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"NEVER SURRENDER!"
And none of the warmongers challenged him on those charges, Thread
They know not to get body slammed on national tv with facts that obliterate rheir narrative
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