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    The United States has announced its intention to "kill" the Russian gas project Arctic LNG 2

    Washington will seek to shut down the Russian gas project Arctic LNG 2, which is being implemented by Novatek.

    Source. This was stated by Assistant Secretary of State for Energy Jeffrey Payette during a hearing in the US Senate.

    It is noted that the United States wants to replace Russian gas with its own LNG.

    According to Pyatt, Washington last week imposed new sanctions against the Arctic LNG 2 project and the en ies involved in it:

    "Our goal is to kill this project. And we're doing that by imposing sanctions, working with our G7 partners," he emphasized.

    The United States is the world leader in LNG supplies. This country accounts for more than 40% of all liquefied natural gas exports, and it intends to expand this share.

    "Arctic LNG 2 is Novatek's second major LNG export project after the Yamal LNG plant, launched in 2017, with a capacity of 16.5 million tons per year.

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    https://mind.ua/en/news/20265300-the...t-arctic-lng-2

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    And there is a reason for that, v...a term, one single world-wide recognized term...NATO...I'm sure Putin's Intel told him..."5, 7 years absolutely tops and they'll be with NATO, and then it will require nuclear interference to take it, sir."

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    "We are goin to use sanctions"


    As part of the sanctions, American legal en ies are prohibited from conducting transactions with Arctic LNG 2, but transactions to exit the company's capital and debt obligations are allowed, provided that payment is made to a blocked account.


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    As part of the sanctions, American legal en ies are prohibited from conducting transactions with Arctic LNG 2, but transactions to exit the company's capital and debt obligations are allowed, provided that payment is made to a blocked account.


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    no invasion
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    "We are goin to use sanctions"



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    (UKR) Major General Serhiy Kryvonos on Current State of the War:
    "We were fed false hopes – telling us that in a month, they'd run out of steam, and in two months, we'd be in Crimea; that they're running low on the missiles striking our cities and villages, that they have no drones, and that they lack resources. Meanwhile, the Russians steadily increased their capabilities through swift error analysis and effective countermeasures to our operations."
    He now advocates Ukraine digging in and taking a defensive stance.
    During the broadcast, Kryvonos said that "the enemy has achieved excellent results" through the efficient fortification of their positions. He pointed out the importance of similar measures to deter aggressors as effectively as the enemy has stalled Ukrainian forces, emphasizing the potential to save soldiers’ lives.
    https://english.nv.ua/nation/ukraini...-50366848.html

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    You just posted that Cheniere Energy Inc, which is based in Houston, Texas, is signing contracts for the LNG. It's in your Bloomberg article. They pay taxes, right? It goes into our GDP as well? They're making money and are an American company that employs americans (who also pay taxes)?
    Yeah, and those contracts they signed will stay even if the sanctions are lifted. These are part of the structural changes we're talking about. Aren't European countries collecting taxes on sales there? Regardless, this isn't a reason to prolong the war.

    It's not like the government has any intentions to reduce military spending either? That's as bipartisan as it gets. So this boils down to kneeling to Russia or not, simple as that.
    It would reduce military spending if we didn't have to buy new stuff to replace what we're giving to Ukraine (HIMARS, Javelins, PATRIOT missiles and on and on). It is bipartisan. The disastrous decisions we've made in the past two decades or so have been largely bipartisan (see Iraq War).

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    (UKR) Major General Serhiy Kryvonos on Current State of the War:

    He now advocates Ukraine digging in and taking a defensive stance.

    https://english.nv.ua/nation/ukraini...-50366848.html
    Wasn't he fired from the Ukrainian army?

    https://www.unian.info/politics/kryv...-11443948.html

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    Yeah, and those contracts they signed will stay even if the sanctions are lifted. These are part of the structural changes we're talking about. Aren't European countries collecting taxes on sales there? Regardless, this isn't a reason to prolong the war.
    Well, that's demonstrably not true, as the contracts pre-war favored the much more economical import of Russian gas.

    What you're saying is that if sanctions are lifted, European companies will continue to pay more for gas because?

    It would reduce military spending if we didn't have to buy new stuff to replace what we're giving to Ukraine (HIMARS, Javelins, PATRIOT missiles and on and on). It is bipartisan. The disastrous decisions we've made in the past two decades or so have been largely bipartisan (see Iraq War).
    There's a grand total of zero legislation to reduce military spending. The question is if part of it goes to support Ukraine and bolster our geopolitical position or not.

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    As part of the sanctions, American legal en ies are prohibited from conducting transactions with Arctic LNG 2, but transactions to exit the company's capital and debt obligations are allowed, provided that payment is made to a blocked account.

    Damn, gotheem

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    Yeah, and those contracts they signed will stay even if the sanctions are lifted. These are part of the structural changes we're talking about. Aren't European countries collecting taxes on sales there? Regardless, this isn't a reason to prolong the war.



    It would reduce military spending if we didn't have to buy new stuff to replace what we're giving to Ukraine (HIMARS, Javelins, PATRIOT missiles and on and on). It is bipartisan. The disastrous decisions we've made in the past two decades or so have been largely bipartisan (see Iraq War).
    Why don’t you just say it?

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    Well, that's demonstrably not true, as the contracts pre-war favored the much more economical import of Russian gas.

    What you're saying is that if sanctions are lifted, European companies will continue to pay more for gas because?
    What's not true? I know the contracts favored Russia before the war. I'm in full agreement with the sanctions and that the sanctions benefited the US to some extent, but long-term agreements outlast the lifting of sanctions. They wouldn't be making these long-term agreements for 20-30 years if they didn't.

    European governments will probably buy more Russian energy if sanctions are lifted but the market has changed with these long-term agreements and with Russia no longer considered a reliable supplier. I'm just making the point that it doesn't all go away if sanctions are lifted which is what you seemed to suggest.

    There's a grand total of zero legislation to reduce military spending. The question is if part of it goes to support Ukraine and bolster our geopolitical position or not.
    The real question is if we increase the military spending or not in order to fund donations to Ukraine. I think I misunderstood what you were trying to say about reducing spending -- I'm not sure why that's relevant to the real question at hand that I just mentioned.

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    Why don’t you just say it?
    Say what?

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    Putler doing botox?


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    What's not true? I know the contracts favored Russia before the war. I'm in full agreement with the sanctions and that the sanctions benefited the US to some extent, but long-term agreements outlast the lifting of sanctions. They wouldn't be making these long-term agreements for 20-30 years if they didn't.

    European governments will probably buy more Russian energy if sanctions are lifted but the market has changed with these long-term agreements and with Russia no longer considered a reliable supplier. I'm just making the point that it doesn't all go away if sanctions are lifted which is what you seemed to suggest.
    Because it doesn't make any economic sense. If the sanctions are lifted and there's no actual limitation from Russia to import gas to Europe again, then those agreements are simply not compe ive. This is simple economics.

    Europe also had (large) agreements with Russia which quickly ended when the war broke out. The notion that uncompe ive agreements will remain in place if sanctions are lifted is pure fantasy.

    Companies have a duty to shareholders, not some national obligation. It would be a dereliction of duty not to take the cheaper source.

    The real question is if we increase the military spending or not in order to fund donations to Ukraine. I think I misunderstood what you were trying to say about reducing spending -- I'm not sure why that's relevant to the real question at hand that I just mentioned.
    But this is red-herring. We always increase military spending, whether we spend it in Ukraine or not. It's relevant in your claim that the Ukraine aid is an investment and not making that investment would save the government money.

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    Say why you support Russia.

    Say why you trust Russia.

    Trump extorted Ukraine. Fact

    Trump said Putin is a good guy. Fact

    Trump said he doesn’t like NATO. Fact

    Trump gets stomped on Election Day. Fact

    Just say it.

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