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Ouch though I agree with Sochan 110%.
https://www.expressnews.com/sports/s...t-18485472.php
"There have been moments where it's like, 'Yo I don't want to,' " Sochan said Saturday. "It's like (expletive) this (expletive)."
Ouch though I agree with Sochan 110%.
I think this will serve him well for the future.
I really doubt the Spurs see this as a long term option
It's what it is. I think it would've been far easier to have him play this role off the bench, but Sochan like Keldon is a non-negotiable starter, so if he was going to be PG, it was going to be to start even though it would probably be better for everyone (including Jeremy) if Tre started things off.
I like his honesty about his confidence being a roller coaster. It’s a obvious when looking at him on the court too. Last season he played with so much energy and seem to be enjoying himself a lot more. I don’t think he will ever be a true point guard, but this could definitely help him improve some parts of his game.
All that said, I still wish Victor got more minutes with Jones because he seems to do a better job of running the offense and getting him involved more.
Sochan/Jones was one of the worst 2 man combos last year.
I just love all of the posters crying for Jones to start,most of who declared him not to be anNBA starting level PG a few months ago.
I like the idea of testing Sochan at PG in and of itself. But I worry at what cost.
1. Sochan could be developing as a SF/backup PF (and have Keldon go nuts leading the bench). Not to mention whatever momentum he had from last year he’s starting over at square one.
2. If this is the year to “not put Victor in a box” and see what he can do, why pair a 19yo with a 20yo PF learning to play PG for the first time in his life?
I have faith it will pay off in the long run, but the worries persist.
I don’t think Jones is a starter level point guard, but he does a pretty solid job of getting the offense together and he is better at finding Victor so far in this small sample size we’ve witnessed. If we had better point guard options on the team I would be for that.
I think Jeremy will definitely become a more well rounded player after going through all this, but ultimately I think point guard will not be his full time role in the future
Love Jeremy's honesty. He's got a good head on his shoulders. He understands that starting at PG is what's best for both him (his career, MPG etc) and the team. Pop's working with him and he's working with us.
That said, we all understand the frustration. Especially considering Wemby needed 30 shots last night but didn't get them. A great PG has his finger on the tempo of the game and knows how to feed the hot hand(s). Sochan's smart but being PG is a a more complicated than PF...
I respect him trying, Pop is asking him to do something that he himself cannot see. That’s some serious faith right there.
All just so keldon can keep starting. So stupid
This is a big part of why I think KJ is the odd man out moving forward. They want to keep his stock as high as possible and with his personality traits, it's probably the wrong move sending him to the bench for his confidence. Sochan's probably the stronger player mentally, apparently
The upside to Sochan becoming a playable PG is so huge that it's worth the attempt even if the odds are against it tbh
Ya what’s the alternative? He was a high draft pick and it’s beneficial for him to start plus pg is the only position he can play in the lineup. Not sure if his upside is huge.
Why is Sochan a "non-negotiable starter"?
Something I haven’t seen posted are Josh Giddey’s very real struggles this year. He’s taken pretty big steps back in multiple areas, so even for guys drafted as points, the struggle is real.
I've been spouting this for months, and to this point I disagree.
Keldon should not be a non-negotiable starter. Even Pop said it....if he could make Manu come off the bench, he can make anybody do it (and sure as KJ with the way he is playing).
The team runs better with Jones on the floor, and he could help facilitate easy looks for Wemby and crew. Let Johnson be a ball of energy and play with more freedom off the bench, instead of just floating out there while (rightfully) giving up touches to guys like Victor, Vassell, and Collins.
Sochan can still handle some play-making duties but he doesn't need to be the guy bringing the ball up the court the majority of the time.
I know the point of this "experiment" is to give him reps and experience, but it feels like we are teetering on the edge of him losing confidence in himself and the team based on these comments. The last thing we need to do is piss off one of our young players of the future.
The way this is going, I feel like this is another stealth tank move by Pop...finding ways to give up games while pretending like it's for the greater good.
Last edited by Dex; 11-12-2023 at 09:19 AM.
Poor sochan doesn't like pops experimenting
We’re not tanking, not even stealth. Pop had easy chances to dump both Phoenix games, like he did so many last year, and declined. We’re also not trying to win. It’s not about the team running better. Think of this as the Spurs “gap year”, where they run off to Europe, smoke dope, and ride around on a Eurail pass. If Tre is on the floor, then he’s handling the ball and not Jeremy, and that’s not what Pop wants. I think you’re also letting your dislike of Pop color your interpretation of Jeremy’s comments. You can be frustrated with your own performance, and also not ready to quit. That’s how you learn, and grow your game.
I mean, to be fair the Jones/Wemby duo has pretty clearly been successful so far this year. I think that’s a fair reason for people to change their tune and be more in favor of inserting Tre into the starting lineup.
Anyways, I still think it’s too early to make any changes. I don’t see Sochan being a PG long-term but I think SA knows this too. It’s about developing him and as long as his confidence doesn’t get completely shot then short term struggles aren’t really a main concern. Obviously if it becomes at the expense of Victor’s development that’s a different story but too early to really judge that.
Last edited by SpursFan86; 11-12-2023 at 09:58 AM.
Soon it will be "Yo, I don't want to be in San Antonio. "
I mean we can always find another back up PF
Soon it will be "Yo, I don't want to be in San Antonio. "
Jones is not a starting level point guard, but Sochan isn’t even a third string level point guard. There are many ways to involve Sochan as a facilitator without making him a point guard. I’ve yet to see any reasonable explanation for this lineup situation. Even popovich recognizes that it doesn’t work, hence his going away from it down the stretch against Minnesota
Can someone post the article please
The roster lacks an nba starting caliber point guard. Tre is closer to one than sochan. It’s really not complicated
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