It's time, bros. Let's face it, the only reason Pop has Sochan at PG is because of this stupid idea of "preserving" Wemby from playing center. As if playing center in the NBA was the equivalent of playing RB in the NFL.
Just play everybody on their damn positions and prepare them for the future. Everybody in the Spurs' organization is talking about "seeing what they got", well, you won't see what you got untill you start playing folks where they are supossed to play, and where they will end up playing in the prime of their careers. Stop with the experimenting bull .
Not true. You didn’t get the memo. You’re so hung up on this you’re missing everything else.
Sochan got penciled in at pg because they wanted better defense than with Tre. Hard to believe now with what we’ve seen, but that’s it.
Nothing to do with what Wemby plays, it was between Sochan and Tre.
If they started Tre at pg they’d still have Collins at center.
Only because of this overblown idea that if they play Wemby at center, he would explode into a million pieces. So they put him at PF, and since they don't want to bench neither Keldon nor Sochan, they had no other choice but to shoehorn Jeremy at PG.
Any other coach would have played Wemby at center, Sochan at PF and they would have an actual PG running the point.
If you want to win then changes, big changes or trades are in order, or you are a ass and are okay with losing and you are an NBA cuck.
Wemby is still to skinny imho to consistently rebound against the bigger teams, so he should still be paired with a big.
honestly just start Bassey next to him. Jones/Vassell/Sochan/Wemby/Bassey. Bring keldon and Collins off the bench
They gave Collins an extension. To play center. If Tre was starting at pg they would still play Collins at center.
o. Anybody there?
You think Wemby should play center. Yeah, ok. But that has nothing to do with the Sochan at pg thing.
Even if they moved Wemby to center, they wouldn’t put Sochan at pf, they’d move Collins to pf, because they’d still want Sochan over Tre.
I say “they” but I mean Pop, of course, the driveling old incompetent nitwit who has become the Spurs albatross.
Pop should have stayed on as an executive consultant a la Jerry West, not as the head coach. Oh well.
Anyway, you want the Big W at center. Fine with me. Not sure it matters if he and his people are already packing their bags.
They also gave Tre an extension to play PG but have a PF doing that.
Are you ok? What was that suppossed to be?o. Anybody there?
I think I explained very clearly why it is related. Having Sochan at PG is the only way Pop could keep him in the starting lineup while playing Wemby at PF.You think Wemby should play center. Yeah, ok. But that has nothing to do with the Sochan at pg thing.
I don't think that's the case, but if it is, they are wrong.Even if they moved Wemby to center, they wouldn’t put Sochan at pf, they’d move Collins to pf, because they’d still want Sochan over Tre.
I say “they” but I mean Pop, of course, the driveling old incompetent nitwit who has become the Spurs albatross.
Pop should have stayed on as an executive consultant a la Jerry West, not as the head coach. Oh well.
Anyway, you want the Big W at center. Fine with me. Not sure it matters if he and his people are already packing their bags.
Sochan playing point guard is not related to wemby playing PF or C
First order of business to correct this cluster- of a team is to teach entry passes and sky hooks, and we all know who on the team needs to learn what.
Get that KAT mentality out of here.
any other coach also wouldn't have started Bryn Forbes for 2 seasons straight. Evidently that never happened again afterwards. We're talking about Flopovich, he has to do something crazy just so he can think of himself being smarter than everybody else.
Didn't Wemby say he isn't a center. Wembanyama prefers not to play center.
I see too many times Wemby just chucking up shots. He's not good at getting the easiest shot possible. He's a poor 3-point shooter. Now he's even struggling to hit 5-6 feet jump shots. His touch around the rim is terrible. With that being said I do think he can still be a star but he's definitely a work in progress.
No, he never said that. In fact, he has played center his entire career untill now.
Wemby has said he doesn't want to play center.
If you provide a real link, with him saying exactly that (not some US articles that missinterpreted what Wemby said) I will stand corrected.
And regardless of whether Wemby wants to play center or not, it doesn't matter, that's where he will end up playing because that's the position where he will maximize his strengths.
Yes he did say he isn't a center.
“I’m not a center even though I can play that position, and I have,” Wembanyama said in the post-game presser after the Spurs' preseason game against the Golden State Warriors.
“But, who knows? I don’t like considering me in a certain position as much. I think you've seen in the preseason I've been the screen-setter and the ball-handler as often.”
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/w...ed-for-phenom/
I don't disagree that to best use his defensive talents, he may need to play center, but it's not the position he wants to play.
https://www.basketusa.com/news/63221...e-des-bleuets/
https://www.basketusa.com/news/70249...terrain-spurs/
and many others....
still, i'm with you on this one. i think he will have to play closer to the basket to be the best version of himself. and from what i hear and see from Victor, i don't think that it will be an easy choice and path for him. He really seems to like playing like a taller Durant.....
a lot of player can do what he does behind the 3 pts line, and way better (even if none of them are seven footer but who cares when it comes to win games and les?). Even factoring the fact that he's only 19 and will improve a lot.
what he does and is able to do in the paint and even from mid range ?..... well, that's another story there. he can change any game there.
by the way, Vincent Collet, his former coach and french NT coach, said several times that Victor shouldn't feel the need to take many 3's each game and play closer to the basket.
from a CBS article:
Victor Wembanyama prefers not to play center
Off these quotes.
As early as the age of 15, he expected to be the focal point of his offense.
Center is not his preferred position.
Those two notions were summed up by Wembanyama himself in a single quote. "I had literally zero responsibility. I never had the ball, even at practice. The coach played me at center," Wembanyama said of a 2019 showcase he played in. "I was really frustrated even coming to the game. I knew it wasn't going to go well. So it didn't go well."
Those quotes are from the interview that was posted hundreds of times here, where he said he "doesn't want to be put in a box", not that he doesn't want to play center.
Same as above.
That sounds exactly to the opposite to "I don't want to play center", tbh.
I don't know if Wemby prefers to play center or not, but in any case it will be just like with Duncan, who also didn't want to say he was a center, but he always was, even when Robinson was on the team.
If he wanted to be playing center, he would be playing center. I don't think he could tell Pop he wanted to play PG and get what we wanted, but he has the skills to be a PF or C and from everything that I've read, he wants to play C. Did he hold a press conference to announce the position he wants to play? No, but Givony is one of the most connected NBA scouts, and especially overseas. I trust what he says. And the converse is also true, where has he said he wants to play center?
Again, I don't disagree that his defensive talents would be maximized at center. Offensively, his skill set is more power forward in my opinion.
Man, you're really pushing this idea hard. It's fascinating to watch.
So you think Pop is holding Wemby back from playing center? He's letting Wemby do whatever he wants and Wemby is actively avoiding playing like a classic center. I think that's our answer right now. Forcing him to play a position that he's not naturally gravitating towards sounds just as bad or not worse than the situation we're already in. Now, having the rest of the team set up plays for him is a different situation to take advantage of his height. I get that. For right now, in no ways he is a classic center. He's horrible at boxing out with his technique. He's horrible at setting screens with his technique. He's horrible at establishing position down low. He's horrible at post moves so to speak other than doing fade away turn arounds, though last night he did show a few shots down low, though they did mostly miss.
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