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    If he wanted to be playing center, he would be playing center. I don't think he could tell Pop he wanted to play PG and get what we wanted, but he has the skills to be a PF or C and from everything that I've read, he wants to play C. Did he hold a press conference to announce the position he wants to play? No, but Givony is one of the most connected NBA scouts, and especially overseas. I trust what he says. And the converse is also true, where has he said he wants to play center?
    I never said he wants to play center, I'm just saying that's what he is.

    Again, I don't disagree that his defensive talents would be maximized at center. Offensively, his skill set is more power forward in my opinion.
    Actually, it's the other way around for me. Maybe in the former NBA he could have fit better as a PF in offense. In today's NBA where every team plays 4 perimeter guys and 1 bigman in the middle, Wemby is best suited on that role as that guy roaming freely through the middle and closer to the basket, while having perimeter touches from time to time, so that he doesn't feel as if he's been "put in a box".

    While on defense, I can deal with him being on the other's team worst offensive player just waiting on the wing to provide weak side help.
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    Man, you're really pushing this idea hard. It's fascinating to watch.

    So you think Pop is holding Wemby back from playing center? He's letting Wemby do whatever he wants and Wemby is actively avoiding playing like a classic center. I think that's our answer right now. Forcing him to play a position that he's not naturally gravitating towards sounds just as bad or not worse than the situation we're already in. Now, having the rest of the team set up plays for him is a different situation to take advantage of his height. I get that. For right now, in no ways he is a classic center. He's horrible at boxing out with his technique. He's horrible at setting screens with his technique. He's horrible at establishing position down low. He's horrible at post moves so to speak other than doing fade away turn arounds, though last night he did show a few shots down low, though they did mostly miss.
    It will be even more fascinating when Wemby inevitably ends up as the center and yall have me here gloating on my superior basketball (and just in general) IQ.


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    He has not shown the perimeter dribble ability to do ball-dominant guard stuff. People seem to be avoiding this elephant.


    That's not to say he won't ever be doing that stuff, but just a current observation.

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    Honestly, he's sort of stuck in no man's land to some degree. He doesn't have to strength to establish position down low consistently. He doesn't have the ability to dribble without getting stripped out on the perimeter consistently. Don't get me wrong. He can do both those things in situations and do it extremely well and look amazing, but he sort of stuck in the middle as far as I can tell, and so I do think that relates to challenges in how the other teammates try to get him the ball.

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    It will be even more fascinating when Wemby inevitably ends up as the center and yall have me here gloating on my superior basketball (and just in general) IQ.

    He's really tall. Play him at center. Seems like that's the analysis.

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    First order of business to correct this cluster- of a team is to teach entry passes and sky hooks, and we all know who on the team needs to learn what.

    Get that KAT mentality out of here.
    I don't think the sky hook would be that great for Wemby right now. He's not going to be able to drag Lanier and Walton up and down the court 48 minutes like Kareem. Not at this point when he can't fight for and get the position on the block Kareem did to make that sky hook such an effective and high percentage weapon. I would love to see him working on it as a tool to add long term but until he has the strength to not get pushed off his spots it's not going to be too useful IMO.

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    Only because of this overblown idea that if they play Wemby at center, he would explode into a million pieces.
    Think it's more of a case of Wemby being pushed around too easily right now. By the time he's 22, maybe 23, and his body has filled out I fully expect him to be center. Ugh it's too bad this is an Olympic year because otherwise I'd be hopeful he could add another 20 lbs of muscle next offseason like he did this summer.

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    Honestly, he's sort of stuck in no man's land to some degree. He doesn't have to strength to establish position down low consistently. He doesn't have the ability to dribble without getting stripped out on the perimeter consistently. Don't get me wrong. He can do both those things in situations and do it extremely well and look amazing, but he sort of stuck in the middle as far as I can tell, and so I do think that relates to challenges in how the other teammates try to get him the ball.
    unusual tweener

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    He's really tall. Play him at center. Seems like that's the analysis.
    Well, then you haven't actually been paying attention to the thread, tbh.

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    If you want to win then changes, big changes or trades are in order, or you are a ass and are okay with losing and you are an NBA cuck.
    this forum has the weirdest ing takes on everything, and they're all weirdly erotic

    You would've thought tanking for a generational prospect literally last year would've changed people's mind, but I guess old dogs never really learn new tricks.

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    Didn't Wemby say he isn't a center. Wembanyama prefers not to play center.
    Yes, at this point the discussion really is "he's 7'4'' so he's a center" VS Wemby dribbling into pull-up 3's on every game.

    He plays like he reads this thread and actively tries to prove DAFfy wrong

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    Yes, at this point the discussion really is "he's 7'4'' so he's a center" VS Wemby dribbling into pull-up 3's on every game.

    He plays like he reads this thread and actively tries to prove DAFfy wrong
    The problem is that he's actually proving me right with his turnovers and awful jumpshooting %.

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    But for real now, Wemby does establish position early and asks for the ball downlow plenty of times. We just don't have good passers on the team.

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    And all the times he takes ill adviced threes or tries to become Iverson, is because of frustration of not getting the ball for long stretches, and since he's standing on the perimeter 90% of the time by design, there's nothing else he can do.

    I think many of us watched the French playoffs, Wemby didn't use to take so many low % shots.

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    We're into season 9 of this era and not once have they had a roster comprised of their best players being able to adequately space the floor and in the past half decade, defend either.

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    this forum has the weirdest ing takes on everything, and they're all weirdly erotic

    You would've thought tanking for a generational prospect literally last year would've changed people's mind, but I guess old dogs never really learn new tricks.
    Wacky perspective as usual. This guy is probably a flat earther supporter.

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    We're into season 9 of this era and not once have they had a roster comprised of their best players being able to adequately space the floor and in the past half decade, defend either.
    there‘s only one solution to this: the old man has to go

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    He just can't be a pure finisher and expect to be a superstar. Dependent players don't carry their teams to les.

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    I’ve always on the camp of wemby being a giant Garnett instead of KD. He’s great at certain perimeter skills for someone his size but not for an nba player. He can dribble but he’s not Kyrie Irving, he can shoot jumpers but he’s not curry. But he is wash above average for someone who’s a seven footer and he should use that to his advantage. The way to do it though is to do it in doses rather than doing it exclusively for long stretches in the game.

    Garnett became very good at it over time in terms of when to post up, when to be a passer at the high post, when to go midrange and when to drive, but more importantly when NOT to do them, based on what the matchups are and what the schemes are for both teams. It is unreasonable to expect a 19 year old rookie to figure this out against high level nba players. That job falls squarely on the coaching staff.

    I’m a huge supporter of PATFO and grateful for what they’ve done over the years for us fans but man this season is hard to watch. It’s depressing.

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    Becuase Pop for some reason won't do it. The earlier, the most amount of people realize where Wemby's strengths are, the better, tbh.
    He’d foul out in 15 minutes playing center. Also, he doesn’t want to play center.

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    He just can't be a pure finisher and expect to be a superstar. Dependent players don't carry their teams to les.
    Shaq says hi.

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    The problem is that he's actually proving me right with his turnovers and awful jumpshooting %.
    No way you're taking percentages for a rookie alien so seriously. The fact that he's even capable, let alone remotely good at these shots, is already insane. When else is he going to get reps getting used to the NBA line and shooting game other than in his NBA rookie season??

    Again, no matter where he might be physically best positioned to play, he just doesn't have a center's game. I'm really curious to see how his career pans out, because no doubt I (and you and everyone on this planet...) see the benefit in him playing C to some degree. But he might be more Anthony Davis than we expected, even in that regard.

    His shooting stroke is so pure that I can't not want him to shoot it, tbh. He's destined for it.

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    Wacky perspective as usual. This guy is probably a flat earther supporter.
    Says the ing boomer

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    No way you're taking percentages for a rookie alien so seriously. The fact that he's even capable, let alone remotely good at these shots, is already insane. When else is he going to get reps getting used to the NBA line and shooting game other than in his NBA rookie season??

    Again, no matter where he might be physically best positioned to play, he just doesn't have a center's game. I'm really curious to see how his career pans out, because no doubt I (and you and everyone on this planet...) see the benefit in him playing C to some degree. But he might be more Anthony Davis than we expected, even in that regard.

    His shooting stroke is so pure that I can't not want him to shoot it, tbh. He's destined for it.
    That's what I've been saying since the beggining, that Wemby is more Davis than Durant. I don't know why you are acting as if Davis isn't a center in today's NBA.

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    That's what I've been saying since the beggining, that Wemby is more Davis than Durant. I don't know why you are acting as if Davis isn't a center in today's NBA.
    He could just end up being like a bigger Giannis with a better shot. Giannis wasnt even in Wemby's universe when he was 19.

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