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    Teams are scheming to stop Wemby on the offensive end. Teams are scheming to avoid Wemby on the defensive end.
    This thread is weird.
    Lol it's very telling. They know he's the guy, and with the rest of our roster being so bad as it is, it's really a no brainer.

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    Lol it's very telling. They know he's the guy, and with the rest of our roster being so bad as it is, it's really a no brainer.
    And not only has he been fairly impressive, his biggest mistakes have been self-inflicted. He's going to be really ing good.

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    Yeah, the Spurs are struggling in part because every team now has the Spurs circled on their calendar. Victor is on a far worse and younger team and hasn't had an entire year with his team. He's 19 and by far the best player on the squad, warts and all.
    Can't imagine the numbers Vic would put up with SGA and Giddey feeding him. They'd probably win the le this year.

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    Hopefully a system gets put in place before the rodeo and reigns in his absurd 30% usage, and focus on quality.

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    I'm a bit perplexed overall. Last year the Spurs with mostly the same roster looked like they were a compe ive point guard and an a legit first option away from being a 6 seed. They get the cherry of the draft and look worse this year than they did at the same point last year. I am pretty confused here. Get a generational player, look somehow worse. I don't know if there is a good explanation.

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    I'm a bit perplexed overall. Last year the Spurs with mostly the same roster looked like they were a compe ive point guard and an a legit first option away from being a 6 seed. They get the cherry of the draft and look worse this year than they did at the same point last year. I am pretty confused here. Get a generational player, look somehow worse. I don't know if there is a good explanation.
    Sochan at point and playing a really hard schedule is a good start to explaining it.

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    Sochan at point and playing a really hard schedule is a good start to explaining it.
    I disagree. Last year's Spurs were an afterthought to opponents who barely had to try. Nobody was on national TV against playoff teams. Sochan is a better point guard than Dejounte was at 21. And as poorly as they've started out, this year's Spurs are about the same winning percentage as last year.

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    Just imagine Chet with the Spurs and Wemby with OKC

    Then give it to Wemby

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    I'm a bit perplexed overall. Last year the Spurs with mostly the same roster looked like they were a compe ive point guard and an a legit first option away from being a 6 seed. They get the cherry of the draft and look worse this year than they did at the same point last year. I am pretty confused here. Get a generational player, look somehow worse. I don't know if there is a good explanation.
    Opposing teams last year know Spurs were garbage so they tried to coast. This season, they show up to beat 'that generational player'

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    Opposing teams last year know Spurs were garbage so they tried to coast. This season, they show up to beat 'that generational player'

    BINGO!!!!

    we are getting every teams best shot because of the hype Victor had coming into this season. Not to mention we are getting national television recognition. Teams are coming to make a statement versus the next big player and aren’t over looking us like last season.


    even Sean Elliott stated this in one of the broadcast

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    Wow. Stupid Post of the Day winner!
    Because of why? Chet puts up better numbers with better efficiency on a winning team. Even ESPN, who is leading the wemby hype train, ranked Chet over wemby.

    Do you guys even know what Roty is? It’s not who will likely be a better player down the road award or who is the hype at young guy award.

    Other than okafor over Dwight, we also had brogdan over embiid where embiid was on a hype train. It just didn’t perform as well due to injuries. Things like this happens.

    Maybe wemby will improve and Chet will level off for the rest of the season (I think it would happen actually and wemby would still win roty) but at this point, after 11 games? Chet is clearly better.

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    So everyone in the media is Spurs homers?
    ESPN just ranked Chet higher.

    And yes, most of the media is still riding in hype now, but Chet has just been performing better so far. I still think wemby will end up with Roty, as I’m thinking PATFO will stop mucking around soon and actually get them to play professional level basketball and Chet will cool down from 3 for sure.

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    but at this point, after 11 games? Chet is clearly better.
    Lolololol

    Chet’s not even the 4th option on his team. This is very easy guys. The guy carrying his team and putting up huge numbers is the better player and will wins over the efficient role player.
    Last edited by itzsoweezee; 11-18-2023 at 09:27 AM.

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    I'm a bit perplexed overall. Last year the Spurs with mostly the same roster looked like they were a compe ive point guard and an a legit first option away from being a 6 seed. They get the cherry of the draft and look worse this year than they did at the same point last year. I am pretty confused here. Get a generational player, look somehow worse. I don't know if there is a good explanation.
    Soft tank while Wemby develops. Sochan at PG is not amounting to wins now but will develop his ball handling/ facilitating skills, then eventually they will get a true PG either by draft or trade. It’s another year of tanking for a BPA in the draft, hopefully a PG, while Wemby gets stronger. At least that’s how I see it.

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    BINGO!!!!

    we are getting every teams best shot because of the hype Victor had coming into this season. Not to mention we are getting national television recognition. Teams are coming to make a statement versus the next big player and aren’t over looking us like last season.


    even Sean Elliott stated this in one of the broadcast
    Exactly! Our players have definitely gotten better than last year but they’re not ready for this level of compe ion and focus that other teams are bringing at them every night. It’s a whole other level. Opposing teams more than likely used to come into last year yawning at the thought of playing the Spurs to the point where their focus level didn’t even have to be all the way there to beat us. NOW everybody is up for playing against Wemby and bringing their A game. I think this is a huge factor in the outcomes of the games this year. This team isn’t good enough or ready for that every single game.

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    I'm a bit perplexed overall. Last year the Spurs with mostly the same roster looked like they were a compe ive point guard and an a legit first option away from being a 6 seed. They get the cherry of the draft and look worse this year than they did at the same point last year. I am pretty confused here. Get a generational player, look somehow worse. I don't know if there is a good explanation.
    only Gregg Popovich can pull that off, by playing a PF at PG and not running any sets because „we want to see what we have“

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    Because of why? Chet puts up better numbers with better efficiency on a winning team. Even ESPN, who is leading the wemby hype train, ranked Chet over wemby.

    Do you guys even know what Roty is? It’s not who will likely be a better player down the road award or who is the hype at young guy award.

    Other than okafor over Dwight, we also had brogdan over embiid where embiid was on a hype train. It just didn’t perform as well due to injuries. Things like this happens.

    Maybe wemby will improve and Chet will level off for the rest of the season (I think it would happen actually and wemby would still win roty) but at this point, after 11 games? Chet is clearly better.
    Not sure where you think you see this.

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    Chet is asked to do like 3 very specific things and he is very good at those 3. Rim run, pick and pop, contest shots near the rim. He will very occasionally do something different like bring the ball up the court, or pump and drive, but his actions are typically limited to the first 3.

    He’s also on a good team with structure which allows him to slot into such a defined role. Wemby is expected to basically be the structure on both ends. The disorganized nature of the team isn’t something he’s in control of. My main complaints about him are his shot selection in the first 10 seconds of the shot clock, and his tendency to stop being engaged on defense when things are spiraling

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    Chet surrounded by good team and coach while Wemby trash coach and team.

    No comparison.

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    Can't beleive there are Spurs fans who genuinely think Chet is more deserving than Victor up until now...

    It's not even close

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    Chet is asked to do like 3 very specific things and he is very good at those 3. Rim run, pick and pop, contest shots near the rim. He will very occasionally do something different like bring the ball up the court, or pump and drive, but his actions are typically limited to the first 3.

    He’s also on a good team with structure which allows him to slot into such a defined role. Wemby is expected to basically be the structure on both ends. The disorganized nature of the team isn’t something he’s in control of. My main complaints about him are his shot selection in the first 10 seconds of the shot clock, and his tendency to stop being engaged on defense when things are spiraling
    you hit the nail on the head.

    Chet has everything way easier than Victor and has a very defined role. Victor is pretty much asked to do everything with not as good teammates. No disrespect to Chet because he is very good, but his situation is totally different and easier than Victor’s

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    ESPN just ranked Chet higher.

    And yes, most of the media is still riding in hype now, but Chet has just been performing better so far. I still think wemby will end up with Roty, as I’m thinking PATFO will stop mucking around soon and actually get them to play professional level basketball and Chet will cool down from 3 for sure.
    You know you've completely lost the plot when you're listing anything espn says as a boon to your argument.

    They thrive on drama and storylines, of course they're going to push a narrative about compe ion for the ROTY so when the thunder plays anyone they can bill it as a ROTY contender and when the Spurs show up they can have SAS talk for 20 minutes about how he knows both guys personally and thinks it's going to be two of the best rookies in the history of the universe competing. That's espn, and pretending like it's anything else to support your argument is silly. You're better than that, amb.

    To say nothing of the fact that Wemby's raw numbers are better. Are you seriously pretending it's a knock on a rookie to post inefficient stats as the #1 option on a terrible team full of guys who are barely old enough to party at a bar after a game
    Really?

    But I guess if you out chet on the Spurs he'd average 33/18/7 on 70% shooting and be the unanimous MVP frontrunner. Because that's how it works when you put a rook on a bad team. And Wemby on okc? that scrub would be lucky to see the court. Probably demote him to G league based on your comments here.

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    If the entire season were to play out this way, with Victor taking bad shots and committing bad turnovers, I could see giving ROY to Chet. He definitely deserves some props because he is playing well. That's why ESPN threw him a bone.

    That said, nobody but NOBODY thinks Victor isn't going to get better as the season continues. I would go further and say not a single person in their right mind thinks Chet is "clearly better".

    If Vic struggles with this team into the new year, nobody on the team or on the staff is safe.

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    I'm a bit perplexed overall. Last year the Spurs with mostly the same roster looked like they were a compe ive point guard and an a legit first option away from being a 6 seed. They get the cherry of the draft and look worse this year than they did at the same point last year. I am pretty confused here. Get a generational player, look somehow worse. I don't know if there is a good explanation.
    He’s a generational PROSPECT r/n, not a generational player, just yet.

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    Chet with 32 points, on 13/19, 8 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals and a block so far.

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