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    Chet with 32 points, on 13/19, 8 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals and a block so far.
    Brandon Miller had a career high with 29 pts as well today

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    Its a marathon, not a sprint and Wemby will win ROY but he's gonna start hatin' life on this sorry sack of team,,,,,and thats gonna spell trouble,,,,,

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    DPOY is definitely impossible. This award is usually given to the best DP on a Great defensive team. Spurs is dead last in defensive rating and giving up 130 pts per game.

    ROY would depend on Chet's contribution to OKC and OKC's overall record.

    All-Star would be either Starter (voted in underserved by irrational fans) or not an All-Star at all (unlikely coaches will vote Wemby in).

    Only assured award would be all-defensive 2nd team. If Wemby stays healthy enough and play enough games.

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    Its a marathon, not a sprint and Wemby will win ROY but he's gonna start hatin' life on this sorry sack of team,,,,,and thats gonna spell trouble,,,,,
    Wemby needs to improve his FG% and lower his TOs to earn ROY.

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    You know you've completely lost the plot when you're listing anything espn says as a boon to your argument.

    They thrive on drama and storylines, of course they're going to push a narrative about compe ion for the ROTY so when the thunder plays anyone they can bill it as a ROTY contender and when the Spurs show up they can have SAS talk for 20 minutes about how he knows both guys personally and thinks it's going to be two of the best rookies in the history of the universe competing. That's espn, and pretending like it's anything else to support your argument is silly. You're better than that, amb.

    To say nothing of the fact that Wemby's raw numbers are better. Are you seriously pretending it's a knock on a rookie to post inefficient stats as the #1 option on a terrible team full of guys who are barely old enough to party at a bar after a game
    Really?

    But I guess if you out chet on the Spurs he'd average 33/18/7 on 70% shooting and be the unanimous MVP frontrunner. Because that's how it works when you put a rook on a bad team. And Wemby on okc? that scrub would be lucky to see the court. Probably demote him to G league based on your comments here.
    I didn’t look at hypotheticals. Clearly Chet is surrounded by better teammates and he’s not even his teams best player and wemby is clearly his teams best player, but results matter, and the fact is that the spurs are not better than last year (some would argue worse) while the thunder is much improved with Chet. Chet also is way more efficient and puts up great numbers, wemby put up great numbers with horrible efficiencies.

    At the end results matter.

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    At the end results matter.


    For the Rookie of the Year award?

    Based on ing what?

    I must have missed it when the Magic made a run at a 2 seed last year, or when Lamelo Ball led his team to a 60 win season. And who can forget the best in the league Mavericks when Luka was a rook... oh wait, that was a 33 win team.

    Love that you're coming up with this random criteria to justify downplaying Wemby's season.

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    For the Rookie of the Year award?

    Based on ing what?

    I must have missed it when the Magic made a run at a 2 seed last year, or when Lamelo Ball led his team to a 60 win season. And who can forget the best in the league Mavericks when Luka was a rook... oh wait, that was a 33 win team.

    Love that you're coming up with this random criteria to justify downplaying Wemby's season.
    Exactly. The moving of the goalposts here is ridiculous. Banchero won over Williams just last season with the usual greater volume but lesser efficiency stats because it was argued that he had the far more difficult task as the 1st option, on a worse team.

    Suddenly, the second the Spurs get one of the GOAT prospects and the compe or is a white American, everything's changed.

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    Exactly. The moving of the goalposts here is ridiculous. Banchero won over Williams just last season with the usual greater volume but lesser efficiency stats because it was argued that he had the far more difficult task as the 1st option, on a worse team.

    Suddenly, the second the Spurs get one of the GOAT prospects and the compe or is a white American, everything's changed.
    I don't think it has anything to do with race.
    People are just emotional because of the losses.

    It's quite rare for high rank rookies to be winning. But chet is a bit unique (aside from this is his second year)

    But in general wins doesn't count as much for rookie of the year.

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    For the Rookie of the Year award?

    Based on ing what?

    I must have missed it when the Magic made a run at a 2 seed last year, or when Lamelo Ball led his team to a 60 win season. And who can forget the best in the league Mavericks when Luka was a rook... oh wait, that was a 33 win team.

    Love that you're coming up with this random criteria to justify downplaying Wemby's season.
    Orlando had like 5 less wins last year than OKC, and Paolo was clearly better than Williams. Dallas had 33 wins, but Traes and Aytons teams were even worse. Same with Lamelo who had 10 or more wins than Edwards Minnesota, plus the stats of those two were pretty close.... if OKC has 20 more wins than the Spurs this year, while Chet playing the way he is, he should get the award. Also, its pretty clear than on the Spurs, he would have even better stats.
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    For the Rookie of the Year award?

    Based on ing what?

    I must have missed it when the Magic made a run at a 2 seed last year, or when Lamelo Ball led his team to a 60 win season. And who can forget the best in the league Mavericks when Luka was a rook... oh wait, that was a 33 win team.

    Love that you're coming up with this random criteria to justify downplaying Wemby's season.
    Orlando had. 12 game improvement with the only compe ion being Williams, who’s team improved due to shai’s step up to supers om.
    Charlotte 10 games when ball put up lesser raw numbers than Edwards
    Dallas had a 9 game improvement and his only compe ion that year was Trae, who put up scoring numbers with horrible efficiencies on a team that didn’t improve.

    These examples actually strengthened my point. Thanks.

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    you hit the nail on the head.

    Chet has everything way easier than Victor and has a very defined role. Victor is pretty much asked to do everything with not as good teammates. No disrespect to Chet because he is very good, but his situation is totally different and easier than Victor’s
    Chet also had a year of being around the team and integration even though he was hobbled for it.

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    I don't think it has anything to do with race.
    People are just emotional because of the losses.

    It's quite rare for high rank rookies to be winning. But chet is a bit unique (aside from this is his second year)

    But in general wins doesn't count as much for rookie of the year.
    I actually meant more so the national media discourse.

    It is, but he got drafted to a team that was already on the rise and poised to take another step this season.

    He's been excellent in his role, but it's a much easier one than Wembanyama's and the latter's is typically what wins it . . . so what's changed?

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    Chet also had a year of being around the team and integration even though he was hobbled for it.

    Very true. Him being around the same guys he would play with helped him create a better understanding of how they can maximize each other’s talents.

    I’m not taking anything away from Chet because he has been great, but his situation is definitely more ideal for winning and helping him be as good as he has been.

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