I am a Sniffer. It is time to Fire Pop.

[Gibbz]

If you replace Duncan with LBJ do the Spurs ring in '03?

[Pauleta14]

An AI that compiled all the NBA data ever recorded draw the conclusion that Timmy was the...2nd!! best player of all time behind MJ

[dbestpro]

An AI that compiled all the NBA data ever recorded draw the conclusion that Timmy was the...2nd!! best player of all time behind MJ

That’s because Timmy did it in spite of Pop being his head coach. Can’t fool AI.

[lefty]

An AI that compiled all the NBA data ever recorded draw the conclusion that Timmy was the...2nd!! best player of all time behind MJ

link please?

[baseline bum]

That’s because Timmy did it in spite of Pop being his head coach. Can’t fool AI.

Meh stop trying to rewrite history. Pop was a great coach then. You want to see what happens to a star with ty coaches look at David Robinson. Or Victor this year with a washed up Pop.

[Pauleta14]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JeL9mo0tR...UT35t0lkKAjOf8

[Pauleta14]

Timmy is so underrated bc ppl always underrate defense

IIRCC TD had the best NBA defensive PER in his last or penultimate season. insane

[z0sa]

Timmy is so underrated bc ppl always underrate defense

IIRCC TD had the best NBA defensive PER in his last or penultimate season. insane

Timmy's 2015 showing was truly amazing.

2016 showed the dropoff, though. He was barely a s of his former self. I just wish they had treated his last year with more pomp. He just faded away, which has never sat well with me. Timmy deserved better.

[Pauleta14]

And he couldn't even run properly the last decade (or more?) of his career

Riidiculous

[spurs1990]

They really gave a coach the richest contract extension to go 3-14 with an average loss of 14 pts, with no end in sight to the slide

[HemisfairArena]

They really gave a coach the richest contract extension to go 3-14 with an average loss of 14 pts, with no end in sight to the slide

Patriots also gave Bill Belichick an extension before the season and Patriot fans are livid and want him gone as bad as Spurs fans with Popovich gone,,,,its comical,,,,both of these coaches are so overrated and the owners/gm give them extensions and their teams are complete trash now,,,,

[Vince Carter's ankle]

It's a Spurs fan forum, got. Of course I'm a homer. But since basketball is a team sport, Timmy is second to Jordan. He was top 5-10 in 2008. Kobe is on the all time one-on-one team.

nope

[mudd]

Time for us beer drinking, not expensive wine snobs, nose bleed spurs supporting stifs, to start booing our holier then thou stupid head coach and front office for passing up better players for we are smarter than you experts. Live on baseline bums!!!!!!

[mudd]

Time for us beer drinking, not expensive wine snobs, nose bleed spurs supporting stifs, to start booing our holier then thou stupid head coach and front office for passing up better players for we are smarter than you experts. Live on baseline bums!!!!!!

[lefty]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JeL9mo0tR...UT35t0lkKAjOf8

Thanks

that Butler pic they used for Jordan

[lefty]

I never said LeBron. I said he SHOULD be above Duncan on the GOAT list, but every one of his les came through politicking and grouping up with franchise players. Personally, I'd put him #2 despite it--the numbers are just absurd--but I'd never smear someone who put Duncan above him. And yes, he absolutely should've dragged Cleveland past that Magic team.

That Orlando team was really good that year
They almost stole one of the fist 2 games in the Finals that year and if it wasn't for SVG being the master of panic and Jameer Nelson having a brain fart in game 4 who knows what would have happened

[lefty]

MJ is clearly above everyone else, Duncan has a legit case for top2 depending on what you value more.
No other player in history transformed a franchise as much as he did. Too bad they ruined it since he retired.

MJ transformed the Bulls, but they were still a dysfunctional mess during his time there and immediately went back to garbage tier when he retired the second time.

Obviously Wilt, Kareem and Lebron are behind MJ if we talk ability, then it's between Duncan, Magic, Bird and Russell for final top5 spot.

When he retired the 2nd time, Pippen and Rodman left

It wasn't just about Jordan
When he retired the 1st time where they garbage in 93-94? no

I'll take guys like Duncan, Bird, Lebron or Jokic ahead of Mike and Kobe - great individual talents for sure- when it comes to having a real impact on teams

[Obstructed_View]

nope

Yep

[Spurminator]

If you replace Duncan with LBJ do the Spurs ring in '03?

Is Lebron 27 like Duncan was in 2003? If that's the scenario, then without a doubt they ring. Probably the next year too.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Timmy's 2015 showing was truly amazing.

2016 showed the dropoff, though. He was barely a s of his former self. I just wish they had treated his last year with more pomp. He just faded away, which has never sat well with me. Timmy deserved better.

Tim wouldn't have wanted the pomp, but I agree. He certainly deserved it. A top 5 all-time player retires, and there's hardly a whimper. The Kobe treatment in every arena on a farewell tour would have driven him nuts I think.

[Sugus]

Time for us beer drinking, not expensive wine snobs, nose bleed spurs supporting stifs, to start booing our holier then thou stupid head coach and front office for passing up better players for we are smarter than you experts. Live on baseline bums!!!!!!

Jesus does Spurstalk deserve it's reputation... Puro Pinche San Antonio, eh?

[Sugus]

Throwing feces on the wall in these threads has been entertaining to read. All the writing was on that wall in the Summer but think we got our expectations too high. I don't like the ty defense or pop chastising fans. But as the franchise always does, they are taking a slow approach so nothing really should be too shocking here. What is shocking is that coach is letting young players play through their mistakes and not micromanaging them. I'm not saying it's a perfect approach, but at least the old man is trying something different. Would I'd rather have a young coach like Becky? Absolutely. But this is the process. The individual talent is better than last year. There are small glimmers. Anyway.

Well said. And TBH, through all the noise and absolutely ty coaching, it has to be mentioned -- Pop has gone beyond everyone's expectations, in most ways. Good and bad.

We do remember the completely serious posts here, for months last year, about how "no point getting Wemby if he's gonna get sent to the GLeague"? the "Pop would never start a rookie!!"? "Pops ego wouldn't allow him to take a step back and let Wemby be himself, he's gonna 'Lonnie' Wemby OMG!!!" posts? Nevermind the "Spurs are too prideful to tank" etc takes, which are beyond outdated at this point.

It's incredible the breakneck speed at which ST moves the goalpost, if nothing else, to have something and someone to on. By all means let's have Fire Pop threads - it'd be nice to have some acknowledgment threads on the other side of the coin, as well. The Spurs are sure taking a "cutting edge" method with this Wemby core for their standard, and a large part of the forum didn't even think them capable of it, and now on them because it's not exactly as they imagined.

[weebo]

He literally can't win half his games without them

Well no Sherlock. Try winning anything with a bunch of kids in the NBA. Problem is you all lied to yourselves. You got a once in a lifetime 19 y/o rook and y’all bought into the hype . How many 19 y/o rookies in the modern NBA, on rebuilding teams ever win anything? From day one, we were told that they weren’t going to skip steps—-well here we are “pounding the rock”. This year is nothing more than 82 game preseason. Accept it or tune out and bandwagon back when they start winning—then you can go ahead and tell everyone how you stuck with the team through good times and bad

[J_Paco]

Well no Sherlock. Try winning anything with a bunch of kids in the NBA. Problem is you all lied to yourselves. You got a once in a lifetime 19 y/o rook and y’all bought into the hype . How many 19 y/o rookies in the modern NBA, on rebuilding teams ever win anything? From day one, we were told that they weren’t going to skip steps—-well here we are “pounding the rock”. This year is nothing more than 82 game preseason. Accept it or tune out and bandwagon back when they start winning—then you can go ahead and tell everyone how you stuck with the team through good times and bad

It's both hilarious and pathetic how quickly the same people that wanted the team to bottom out for years and years are now doing an about face. Crying that the team is losing 'too much' and they are losing faith.

So, basically there are a lot of fairweather fans (and trolls) on this and they'll cry/complain regardless of the team's situation.

[poopbox]

Well no Sherlock. Try winning anything with a bunch of kids in the NBA. Problem is you all lied to yourselves. You got a once in a lifetime 19 y/o rook and y’all bought into the hype . How many 19 y/o rookies in the modern NBA, on rebuilding teams ever win anything? From day one, we were told that they weren’t going to skip steps—-well here we are “pounding the rock”. This year is nothing more than 82 game preseason. Accept it or tune out and bandwagon back when they start winning—then you can go ahead and tell everyone how you stuck with the team through good times and bad

It/s not about winning. It's about being compe ive, which the spurs aren't. Sniffers have touted Pop as some mensa level basketball intellect but he legit can't find a way to not lose by double digits to every team in the league no matter how bad they are or how many players they are missing.

Hilarious enough the only other coach in the same position is Monty Williams, another Pop disciple