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  1. #1026
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    Ya, I don’t see the argument to have UGA in since they lacked any signature win. Their best win was a 9 pt home win against Missouri

    #1 ranking is meaningless when you have a logjam at the top. They were just #1 by default since they were the defending champions but that should have no bearing on this season.
    The current poll rankings are an extension from previous seasons/success. The foundation is: SEC is best and then everything based off that.

    If Georgia was overrated then who did Bama even defeat this season? They lost their signature game of the season.

    Committee is trying to fool us into believing Bama was the final team chosen for the Playoff. Wrong. There was absolutely no scenario that SEC would be left out. Texas went to bed that night hoping to sneak in and woke up #3.

    Most people are accepting the results because A) expansion next season and B) we are promised superior 1st Round games on TV

    IMO Bama better win or else the SEC was a shame and Ohio State got shafted.

  2. #1027
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    little little brother i know ur soul is deteriorating minute by minute that texas has eternal scoreboard on ur poverty ins ution.........u cant have bama without texas........texas beat bama by double digits on the road
    u CANt haVe TexAs wiTouT Ou

  3. #1028
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    Best solution this year was a two team playoff.

    Michigan v. Washington

    But it had to be four and it got more difficult.
    So now 12 will solve it all....

    This year I think an 8 slot system might have also been decent.
    And get an earlier start instead of waiting a month.

    Michigan
    Washington
    Fl St.
    UT
    Alabama
    Georgia
    Ohio St.

    Michigan or UW gets a bye.

    Or leave out ohio st. out and give Michigan and UW byes.

  4. #1029
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    Honestly, if you want to put in UT ahead of Bama, I can see the logic enough to let it go.

    But Florida St? Lolneh they got unforgivably screwed

  5. #1030
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    Best solution this year was a two team playoff.

    Michigan v. Washington

    But it had to be four and it got more difficult.
    So now 12 will solve it all....

    This year I think an 8 team system might have also been decent.
    And get an earlier start instead of waiting a month.

    Michigan
    Washington
    Fl St.
    UT
    Alabama
    Georgia
    Ohio St.

    Michigan or UW gets a bye.
    Florida St would still rightfully complain about being screwed

  6. #1031
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    The current poll rankings are an extension from previous seasons/success. The foundation is: SEC is best and then everything based off that.

    If Georgia was overrated then who did Bama even defeat this season? They lost their signature game of the season.

    Committee is trying to fool us into believing Bama was the final team chosen for the Playoff. Wrong. There was absolutely no scenario that SEC would be left out. Texas went to bed that night hoping to sneak in and woke up #3.

    Most people are accepting the results because A) expansion next season and B) we are promised superior 1st Round games on TV

    IMO Bama better win or else the SEC was a shame and Ohio State got shafted.
    Georgia still was undefeated to that point in a P5 conference defeating a handful of ranked teams so they’re a Top 5 team. Still a signature win by Bama. I’m just making that point to counter those who say “you can’t drop Georgia all the way from 1 to outside the top four after a three point loss!”. When you have multiple undefeated teams with similar schedules they’re all just 1a , 1b, 1c, and 1d IMO.

    for the record, I still think FSU should have gotten in by being a P5 undefeated alone. And then you have a three way tie between UT, Bama, and UGA and you pick UT for reasons I mentioned a few pages back.

  7. #1032
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    Florida St would still rightfully complain about being screwed
    Maybe.
    But they could prove it wrong on the field.
    They cant even do that this year.

    If you think Fl St. would get screwed by being ranked lower than UM and UW and miss a bye just wait till the 12 team system begins.
    Outrage every year.
    Last edited by pgardn; 12-05-2023 at 05:14 PM.

  8. #1033
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    Georgia still was undefeated to that point in a P5 conference defeating a handful of ranked teams so they’re a Top 5 team. Still a signature win by Bama. I’m just making that point to counter those who say “you can’t drop Georgia all the way from 1 to outside the top four after a three point loss!”. When you have multiple undefeated teams with similar schedules they’re all just 1a , 1b, 1c, and 1d IMO.

    for the record, I still think FSU should have gotten in by being a P5 undefeated alone. And then you have a three way tie between UT, Bama, and UGA and you pick UT for reasons I mentioned a few pages back.
    Deciding between UT, Bama, and Georgia is easy.
    Unless you decide head to head means nothing.

    UT is the most objective outcome Unless head to head means zero.

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    Georgia still was undefeated to that point in a P5 conference defeating a handful of ranked teams so they’re a Top 5 team. Still a signature win by Bama. I’m just making that point to counter those who say “you can’t drop Georgia all the way from 1 to outside the top four after a three point loss!”. When you have multiple undefeated teams with similar schedules they’re all just 1a , 1b, 1c, and 1d IMO.

    for the record, I still think FSU should have gotten in by being a P5 undefeated alone. And then you have a three way tie between UT, Bama, and UGA and you pick UT for reasons I mentioned a few pages back.

  10. #1035
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    Georgia lost their championship game. Winning streak and number one ranking and of that doesn't matter when it comes to that. Are they better than a couple of the teams that are in there? Probably. But they didn't win when it counts and so they are out. Florida State won all of their games so they should be in. Yes, they will likely get their ass kicked. But they are still undefeated. Similar to Georgia losing their conference championship game, you cannot get in if you lose by double digits to an opponent at home going head to head with you in the decision-making process. In a way, Florida State and Texas are similar. You can't discount the undefeated schedule and you can't discount the head-to-head win. Both matter and both should be in

  11. #1036
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    Maybe.
    But they could prove it wrong on the field.
    They cant even do that this year.

    If you think Fl St. would get screwed by being ranked lower than UM and UW and miss a bye just wait till the 12 team system begins.
    Outrage every year.
    How would they prove it wrong on the field any more with a two team playoff vs four? The players will sit out for draft just the same

  12. #1037
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    Georgia lost their championship game. Winning streak and number one ranking and of that doesn't matter when it comes to that. Are they better than a couple of the teams that are in there? Probably. But they didn't win when it counts and so they are out. Florida State won all of their games so they should be in. Yes, they will likely get their ass kicked. But they are still undefeated. Similar to Georgia losing their conference championship game, you cannot get in if you lose by double digits to an opponent at home going head to head with you in the decision-making process. In a way, Florida State and Texas are similar. You can't discount the undefeated schedule and you can't discount the head-to-head win. Both matter and both should be in
    Agreed… I think P5 Undefeated should be an automatic assuming you don’t have undefeateds from all five conference. You have to reward teams for winning at the end of the day. They should never have a team with more losses leapfrog because they “look better”. Taking the “hotter team” just sets a bad precedent and opens up a huge can of worms

  13. #1038
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    u CANt haVe TexAs wiTouT Ou
    stop being obtuse.......ou is not a conference champion.......

  14. #1039
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    stop being obtuse.......ou is not a conference champion.......
    That's not a rule

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    How would they prove it wrong on the field any more with a two team playoff vs four? The players will sit out for draft just the same
    Look at my quote again.
    I said 8 could have worked for them and 12 certainly would.

  16. #1041
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    Best solution this year was a two team playoff.

    Michigan v. Washington

    But it had to be four and it got more difficult.
    So now 12 will solve it all....

    This year I think an 8 slot system might have also been decent.
    And get an earlier start instead of waiting a month.

    Michigan
    Washington
    Fl St.
    UT
    Alabama
    Georgia
    Ohio St.

    Michigan or UW gets a bye.

    Or leave out ohio st. out and give Michigan and UW byes.

  17. #1042
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    I've been going over this in my head since everything was announced and I'm convinced there really was no good solution. Florida state is undefeated and they deserve to be in. Georgia is definitely a top four team in the nation. UT beat Alabama and they deserve to be in. The other undefeated teams deserve to be in. The good thing is we get 12 teams next year and we won't have to deal with this again hopefully.
    When they announced it Sunday, I was good with the decisions. After reading and listening to a lot of the arguments for each team, I now lean towards the idea that Florida State should have been in, probably over Alabama.

    The whole idea that the Travis injury was the biggest deciding factor potentially opens up a big can of worms. So, for instance, if Milroe gets injured in practice next week and won’t be ready for the playoffs, wouldn’t that make Bama not worthy of its playoff spot? So should the committee reconvene and replace Bama with Georgia? Football is a physical sport. Injuries happen. The actual resume of the actual games played should have carried the most weight.

    The subjective “eye test” making the final call really does make the whole thing feel biased and ty.


    I’m still against the 12 team playoff. For a log time, the whole point of not having a playoff was bc of the number of games it added on to the players’ bodies. The 12 team playoff means a team could play up to 17 games in the season. A full NFL regular season. Even a 6 or 8 team playoff means up to 16 games. Feels like getting a more universally accepted national champion is more important than the health and safety of the student athletes.

  18. #1043
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    When they announced it Sunday, I was good with the decisions. After reading and listening to a lot of the arguments for each team, I now lean towards the idea that Florida State should have been in, probably over Alabama.

    The whole idea that the Travis injury was the biggest deciding factor potentially opens up a big can of worms. So, for instance, if Milroe gets injured in practice next week and won’t be ready for the playoffs, wouldn’t that make Bama not worthy of its playoff spot? So should the committee reconvene and replace Bama with Georgia? Football is a physical sport. Injuries happen. The actual resume of the actual games played should have carried the most weight.

    The subjective “eye test” making the final call really does make the whole thing feel biased and ty.


    I’m still against the 12 team playoff. For a log time, the whole point of not having a playoff was bc of the number of games it added on to the players’ bodies. The 12 team playoff means a team could play up to 17 games in the season. A full NFL regular season. Even a 6 or 8 team playoff means up to 16 games. Feels like getting a more universally accepted national champion is more important than the health and safety of the student athletes.
    But the students want the issue settled just as much as anyone else. And it's been proven the 4 team playoff does not work. So what's the answer? We can't go back to deciding it via the associated press. I think at the very least it needs to be an 8 team playoff. This year has shown that four teams will never really work because you can easily get in the situations we are in right now. The kids want to play the games and want a champion decided as much as the public does. Let them play them

  19. #1044
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    I don’t disagree that the players want to play, and pretty much all college football fans would rather have a more universally accepted and decisive national champ. But is it that important if you think about it? Is it that necessary for the sport?

    Even before the college football playoffs, even before the BCS, what made college football so unique unto itself, apart from any other college sport, and maybe just as relevant, even separate from the professional team sports, was that in order to win a “ le,” every game mattered. Not just every prime time, top 25 match-up, not just rivalry games. If you messed up just once along the way, you’re pretty much f’d. Now with conference championships and the playoffs and subjective criteria, and especially now with a 12 team playoff, there could potentially be multiple teams with 2 losses with a chance at a le.

    It de-emphasizes the regular season. It takes away what was so unique about college football for the better part of century plus.

    Hey, it’s just a counter argument to the whole evolution and expansion of the college football playoff. Just an opinion.

  20. #1045
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    I don’t disagree that the players want to play, and pretty much all college football fans would rather have a more universally accepted and decisive national champ. But is it that important if you think about it? Is it that necessary for the sport?

    Even before the college football playoffs, even before the BCS, what made college football so unique unto itself, apart from any other college sport, and maybe just as relevant, even separate from the professional team sports, was that in order to win a “ le,” every game mattered. Not just every prime time, top 25 match-up, not just rivalry games. If you messed up just once along the way, you’re pretty much f’d. Now with conference championships and the playoffs and subjective criteria, and especially now with a 12 team playoff, there could potentially be multiple teams with 2 losses with a chance at a le.

    It de-emphasizes the regular season. It takes away what was so unique about college football for the better part of century plus.

    Hey, it’s just a counter argument to the whole evolution and expansion of the college football playoff. Just an opinion.
    The old way of 30+ years ago was bull because you could have multiple teams undefeated and still be left out. Look at Auburn in 2004(?)

    So no, for them every game didn't matter.

  21. #1046
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    Not selecting a team because someone got injured is indefensible. This is 2001 Nebraska, but there was no mathematical formula to blame it on.

    A 12-team playoff will be great. Most of the conference champs and 8 SEC teams. Then when Michigan, Ohio State and Notre Dame join the SEC, the rest of the country can have one or two at large bids.

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    The old way of 30+ years ago was bull because you could have multiple teams undefeated and still be left out. Look at Auburn in 2004(?)

    So no, for them every game didn't matter.
    Isn't it ironic that the 2004 season was a rallying cry for four teams so that undefeated teams wouldn't be left out?

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    We are losing our coDC/ LB coach to be HC at Nevada.

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    Not selecting a team because someone got injured is indefensible. This is 2001 Nebraska, but there was no mathematical formula to blame it on.

    A 12-team playoff will be great. Most of the conference champs and 8 SEC teams. Then when Michigan, Ohio State and Notre Dame join the SEC, the rest of the country can have one or two at large bids.
    So what's your solution? You can sit here and play skeptic as much as you want but the fact is nothing has worked yet.

  25. #1050
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    They should have made precise requirements to get into the playoffs instead of just some honks sitting in a room guessing who they think is best.

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