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    Lol you're ridiculous.
    LOL the guy who thinks a one man team should still be winning games when that one man has a broken foot calling anyone ridiculous. Just come out and say Pop because he doesn't like Trump. Everyone knows that's what you mean.

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    The thing about tanking is, if you do it wrong, it’s very possible to win games you don’t want to win. I don’t think he wanted those blowouts, because that’s bad for morale, so he does things in close games like using all of his timeouts so that he can’t challenge. The fine line that you have to walk is to lose a LOT of games, but not get blown out too often.
    It's dangerous to look incompetent, from a job-security standpoint. Especially at his age, but ever, really. So I have difficulty believing he's purposely making such a big mistake.

    Then again, if he truly has zero chance of being fired because ownership has assured him as much, then yeah, I could see your point. But that's really a bit of a stretch - nobody's untouchable in entertainment.

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    CIA was always a cover by the sniffers to explain the re ed he has always done. When he benches all his starters before a national game against a conference power, when he benches his centers in the playoffs, when he lets great players rot on the bench until they are facing elimination, when he refuses to foul when up by three, when he subs out a player who just hit four shots in a row...
    His subbing is confusing a ton of the time, but I think some of it is because he wants players to always be ready and trust in The System. It's a bit cult-y.

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    His subbing is confusing a ton of the time, but I think some of it is because he wants players to always be ready and trust in The System. It's a bit cult-y.
    It's the summit of hubris that the stupid decisions he made that Tim Duncan's talent was able to overcome are part of a "system" that he thinks was successful because of himself.

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    It's the summit of hubris that the stupid decisions he made that Tim Duncan's talent was able to overcome are part of a "system" that he thinks was successful because of himself.
    I would have chuckled at this before the current season - specifically the mic incident. Now, I honestly don't know. I think the System was great for the Spurs team in 2014. The 2023-24 Spurs are not the same team in any way, shape or form and so even though we're using it, I'm not certain it's actually doing anyone any favors anymore.

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    It's dangerous to look incompetent, from a job-security standpoint. Especially at his age, but ever, really. So I have difficulty believing he's purposely making such a big mistake.

    Then again, if he truly has zero chance of being fired because ownership has assured him as much, then yeah, I could see your point. But that's really a bit of a stretch - nobody's untouchable in entertainment.
    Pop has complete job security.

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    I’m starting to wonder if “the system” happened despite Pop, with him probably actively fighting against it insisting on the team continuing to run “4 down.”

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    I would have chuckled at this before the current season - specifically the mic incident. Now, I honestly don't know. I think the System was great for the Spurs team in 2014. The 2023-24 Spurs are not the same team in any way, shape or form and so even though we're using it, I'm not certain it's actually doing anyone any favors anymore.
    I'm with you. I honestly thought Pop was tanking last year and would suddenly have this team rolling. It's increasingly clear to me that the 2013 team was Tim, Tony and Manu, who could run the 2-man game to perfection and could run a three-man PnR at an elite level adding Tiago Splitter and Boris Diaw and an army of smart, veteran role players who knew how to pass. Those were guys that you could tell to move the ball for better shots and they would nod and do it. The 2014 team was the same group angry that Pop pulled his all-world defender for the last possession of a championship close-out game.

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    I’m starting to wonder if “the system” happened despite Pop, with him probably actively fighting against it insisting on the team continuing to run “4 down.”
    That and his smallball fixation. He damn sure didn't love the pick and roll because he kept Splitter out of the rotation for two years.

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    Pop has complete job security.
    source?

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    Rogue Bogues indeed…


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    Really? You think they’ll fire the All Time winningest coach, like ever? Pop will leave on his terms, and in his own time.

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    yeah Spurs played the beautiful game despite Pop coaching

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    Really? You think they’ll fire the All Time winningest coach, like ever? Pop will leave on his terms, and in his own time.
    Why does this thread exist, then? You act like it's insane to discuss it now in a 7 page (at 50 replies each, no less) thread and growing.

    Hence the source ask. If you have a source to shut down this talk, feel free to share. Otherwise, laughing it off is just laziness on your behalf.

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    FWIW, I feel immense sadness at the thought of Pop leaving - and him being fired seems unimaginable. But it's not 100% certain it'll never happen if we lose a lot. That's more obvious to me than assuming based upon 5 rings f*ggot that Pop is untouchable as we welcome the next LeBron into the team/League.

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    Pop will leave on his terms, and in his own time.
    He certainly will.

    Official Losingest Coach watch Thread (spurstalk.com)

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    yeah Spurs played the beautiful game despite Pop coaching
    the beautiful game existed thx to Boris Diaw

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    Why does this thread exist, then? You act like it's insane to discuss it now in a 7 page (at 50 replies each, no less) thread and growing.

    Hence the source ask. If you have a source to shut down this talk, feel free to share. Otherwise, laughing it off is just laziness on your behalf.
    You've been here how long, and don't know there's a huge cadre of Pop haters? Jerkoffs on a message board have zero relevance to Pop's continuation coaching.

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    You've been here how long, and don't know there's a huge cadre of Pop haters? Jerkoffs on a message board have zero relevance to Pop's continuation coaching.
    Suddenly Scott is a pp hater? and you're moving the goalposts. you say Pop has complete job security. Is that a fact? nope. No one who has lost 14 games straight in a professional sports league has ever been untouchable. so come off the your opinion is wrong stuff, friend. all im sayin

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    Why does this thread exist, then? You act like it's insane to discuss it now in a 7 page (at 50 replies each, no less) thread and growing.

    Hence the source ask. If you have a source to shut down this talk, feel free to share. Otherwise, laughing it off is just laziness on your behalf.
    To be fair, the thread only exists because I'm tired of watching us traverse the seas of time like a ship without a rudder. I'd probably agree that the Spurs won't fire Pop, even if they should.

    lol at being called a Pop hater though.

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    the beautiful game existed thx to Boris Diaw
    true but also manu, tp, tim, kawhi, Tiago... and the coach

    Who in his right mind would believe Spurs played that kind of bb against the coach will ? in particular when the said coach is Pop

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    To be fair, the thread only exists because I'm tired of watching us traverse the seas of time like a ship without a rudder. I'd probably agree that the Spurs won't fire Pop, even if they should.

    lol at being called a Pop hater though.
    tbh, I never even looked to see who started this thread, and would not call you a Pop hater, scott, but there are a ton of them, and they are the ones running up the post count here, which is something mentioned in the z0sa post I quoted.

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    Winningest Coach In All Team Sports for 20 years. That's a pretty good sign of success. People trying to separate the success of Pop, David, Tim, Manu, and Tony is ridiculous. It's a team. Tim alone, or Pop alone are not responsible for that kind success.

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    true but also manu, tp, tim, kawhi, Tiago... and the coach

    Who in his right mind would believe Spurs played that kind of bb against the coach will ? in particular when the said coach is Pop
    well all the players that played were part of it of course,
    but none were more important and impactful than Boris imo. He was a very unique player whose unselfishness and love of the beautiful game (from his education in Pau/France) allowed what happened. He was contagious more than any other player
    to this day he still absurdly underrated.

    His main weakness was his lack of selfishness that could have made him a super star.

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    "Pop used to be really good but now he sucks" really isn't that hot of a take.

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