I'm sorry, all I hear is you trying to act important because you understand international politics. I'm not disputing shia-sunni dynamics or the fact that Hamas is an Iranian shia proxy.
My issue is that we were talking about the plight of the Palestinian people and your "solution" for them was to leave, wait it out, come back and as I explained that is neither their decision nor their desire, pointing at Hamas and the muslim brotherhood doesn't change their reality in the slightest, nor Israel's for that matter. Justifying this bombing campaign with "Hamas bad" / "Gaza is tiny" doesn't even help to address Israel's safety in either the short term or the long term. It seems your only goal is to sound like you know a lot.. and hey maybe you do know more than most, but you are still incredibly naive if you really think this problem will be solved by Israel committing war crimes and Palestinians sitting out the bombings on the other side of the border fence so that only Hamas gets bombed to . The re ed "just move out if you don't want to be collateral" argument is re ed regardless of when/where it is being used
Solution? I am not naive enough to think there is way to fix it all. I am trying to get innocent refugees out of a war zone.
As for war crimes, do you have any proof that Israel is targeting civilians or anything that is a war crime?
As for collateral damage, you once again never mention Hamas or their role in this. It is a huge blinder. I can easily provide proof of their war crimes. For example, they use innocents as human shields and prevent people from leaving areas.
Additionally, in past conflicts, the Muslim Brotherhood and Jahidi want be right beside Hamas. this was the reality in the last intifada.
They aren't there. The 'risk' to Israel's security used to be the Sunni states. Now they work with Israel to remove Iranian proxies.
It's funny you try to make it personal about how I am 'trying to talk smart' essentially. You don't really posit much at all.
You cannot kill the ideology of Hamas and Israel cannot just do nothing after that incident. Hamas knew this, but maybe didn't expect that level of success and thus that level of reckoning.
do you know what google is? United Nations, Amnesty International, even israeli press and politicians say it (might come as another shock that like hamas doesnt represent all palestinians, IDF doesnt represent all israelis)
Im not focusing on Hamas because they dont represent all palestinians, certainly not civilians, children, you know, the ones there are thousands of which dying, the human shields you so callously justify killing because its Hamas fault for hiding behind them.... Because Israel has to do something even if that something is counterproductive, immoral, and ultimately unrelated to the actual cause of the attack.. just like the US after 911, that was a good analogy by you
Is killing "civilians" in a war only a problem when Israel does it?
absolutely not. why do you ask?
Where Is the moral outrage over firebombing Dresden, nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki, napalming villages in Vietnam, indiscriminate drone strikes in Afghanistan etc.?
I guess you didn't read "The Wings of Judgment" and were asleep during the Vietnam War. There was plenty of outrage. There has been plenty of moralizing.
Construing Hiroshima and Nagasaki as war crimes is a plausible and already out there take too.
So you have nothing but want me to Google to prove your assertion.
Of course they do not represent them. Hamas prevents them from leaving the warzone and uses them as human shields. This is not a war against the Palestinians. It is a war against Hamas.
You're very close to getting it, CC
You don't think children are civilians? McVeighesque.
McVeigh was living proof they was.
In passing, there was definitely moral outrage over civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan, ing about wanton tactics and noncombatant deaths in war isn't some novelty that people just now seized on to bash Israel.
How do you suggest eliminating Hamas without collateral damage?
Most of the Vietnam outrage was against the draft and a pointless war, not the indiscriminate killing of yellow people.
As long as the Jews & Yahoo have the US State Dept, and CNN in their corner {the solve} is attained. State Dept., & CNN ain't goin' nowhere.
As long as the Jews & Yahoo have the US State Dept, and CNN in their corner {eliminating Hamas without collateral damage} is fully attainable. The State Dept., will see to it & CNN, et al will block said collateral damage...it'll be like it never happened. Ace-in-the-hole Nobel will be the kosher cherry on top.
It'll be a good thing.
Not even a quarter century after "indiscriminate killing of yellow people" had been presented not once, but...Truman:::"Again."
Your comment made absolutely no sense as usual.
You fail to realize what your POV really means as usual.
Tell me Nostadamus, what does it mean?
This is current events and Israel has been called out repeatedly on the matter, upstream WH and I have been posting links, I'm not going to hold your hand. If you don't know about the multiple do ented cases of targeting civilians, journalists, doctors etc I'm more inclined to believe you wilfully ignore them.
And it's not just Hamas preventing them from leaving the warzone, they didn't build the fence around gaza
Casual dehumanization.
Whan has war ever been humanized? At least we don't make the losers slaves anymore.
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