*** Official Israel vs Hamas war #13783478343 thread ***

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I do understand nuance. Where is the nuance in this statement RE: making it personal?

Well, I had not been making it personal and if you have not noticed, wine and I have been discussing the topic while you rant at me.

I will point out explicitly that the post you quoted was not a response to you. This would be a good point to use your preferred method and ask you who the post you quoted was responding to.

I'm not going to do that. It was a response to your fair maiden you are taking me to task over. Bolded red letters. How fierce.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, I had not been making it personal and if you have not noticed, wine and I have been discussing the topic while you rant at me.

I will point out explicitly that the post you quoted was not a response to you. This would be a good point to use your preferred method and ask you who the post you quoted was responding to.

I'm not going to do that. It was a response to your fair maiden you are taking me to task over. Bolded red letters. How fierce.

And yet you have made it personal with him as well. How fierce.



Your failure to provide nuance in your declaration that you do not make it personal is your problem, not mine.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And yet you have made it personal with him as well. How fierce.



Your failure to provide nuance in your declaration that you do not make it personal is your problem, not mine.

I am having a lot fun with how you are making a fool of yourself. Wine decided to chime in. They didn't get mad about it. Someone did though.

[ChumpDumper]

I am having a lot fun with how you are making a fool of yourself. Wine decided to chime in. They didn't get mad about it. Someone did though.

Yep -- you. Winehole told you exactly how you personalize many if not most of your interactions.

So fierce!

[Winehole23]

starts as a topical conversation, ends up a multipage, untopical flame war.

seems to be a pattern.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

starts as a topical conversation, ends up a multipage, untopical flame war.

seems to be a pattern.

alright. fair enough. I will just put on the ignore filter for a bit.

[Winehole23]

from the WaPo article

[FuzzyLumpkins]

from the WaPo article

So the Kuwaiti's are in there and need supplies. That is very interesting.

[Winehole23]

So the Kuwaiti's are in there and need supplies. That is very interesting.

not sure what you mean.

you don't think people are sick?

you don't trust Kuwaitis?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

not sure what you mean.

you don't think people are sick?

you don't trust Kuwaitis?

Gaza was one of the most fraught places for sanitation in the world with water shortages and no public sanitation beyond trash pickup before it got leveled. Of course people are sick.

It is interesting because as I was stating before I was curious whether or not Sunni state actors would be allowed in.

It's going to be a hundred years before a Palestinian population would willingly accept schools, hospitals, or sewers run by Israeli's. They might with the Kuwaiti though. Smaller Arab league nations make a whole lot sense.

Now I get that this is probably just a doctors without borders thing but that is the type of thing I look for as opposed to dead babies.

[ChumpDumper]

Why can't they be allowed to run their own schools, hospitals, or sewers?

[Winehole23]

Gaza was one of the most fraught places for sanitation in the world with water shortages and no public sanitation beyond trash pickup before it got leveled. Of course people are sick.

Sounds like you're minimizing.

The disease burden of hundreds of thousands of people under heightened siege conditions, under the stress of continual bombardment and displacement, without shelter, food and clean water and access to health care, crowded into small, unsanitary safe zones -- should be expectably higher than the baseline, no? To suggest than nothing at all has changed because sanitation and disease were problems in Gaza before Oct 7th seems more polemical than plausible.

[Winehole23]

Why can't they be allowed to run their own schools, hospitals, or sewers?

that's all HAMAS infrastructure

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sounds like you're minimizing.

The disease burden of hundreds of thousands of people under heightened siege conditions, under the stress of continual bombardment and displacement, without shelter, food and clean water and access to health care, crowded into small, unsanitary safe zones -- should be expectably higher than the baseline, no? To suggest than nothing at all has changed because sanitation and disease were problems in Gaza before Oct 7th seems more polemical than plausible.

I just said that it was like that before the place was leveled. That implies that it got worse after IDF started their offensive.

What should I have done to make it right? More dead babies?

[Winehole23]

I just said that it was like that before the place was leveled. That implies that it got worse after IDF started their offensive.

Hmm, sounds like the opposite to me, but only you know what you really meant. Elliptical reasoning leads reliably to misunderstandings.

You can head that off by being a little clearer about what you mean, but I just cleared it up by asking you directly so no matter.

[FrostKing]

Palestine chooses to play victim and side against the International Community - instead friends with Iran etc

Long term they are arrogant enough to think the tide will turn and West will decline. They are betting against us. Join the winning side and enjoy a good life alongside Israel. 50% of Gaza before the War was dependent on UN welfare? Join us....

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Hmm, sounds like the opposite to me, but only you know what you really meant. Elliptical reasoning leads reliably to misunderstandings.

You can head that off by being a little clearer about what you mean, but I just cleared it up by asking you directly so no matter.

If I level a city, does the sanitation situation become better or worse?

[Winehole23]

If I level a city, does the sanitation situation become better or worse?

like i said, anpther reasonable inference was that you were deflecting/minimizing, as you've done a few times itt. thanks for clarifying.

[Ef-man]

[FuzzyLumpkins]

like i said, anpther reasonable inference was that you were deflecting/minimizing, as you've done a few times itt. thanks for clarifying.

Again with the assertion. Quote me minimizing the impact of the war on the refugees.

I think we need to work on your critical thinking skills while reading to help you work past your bias and assumptions.

[Ef-man]

[Tyronn Lue]

About like the Spurs recently

[Tyronn Lue]

ing around with Yaweh's chosen and finding out

[ChumpDumper]

Inshallah.

[Ef-man]

About like the Spurs recently

Not as bad as Spurs as hamas has a good point guard.