He does, and he still thinks Pop is terrible. The video on last night basically really tore into Wemby's defensive awareness. That was interesting consider how much right Victor did during the same game.
EDIT: May as well add it into this video too:
you're probably right on vassell. i was considering the backdoor cut, but keldon was already in that area by then, even if he hadnt made it all the way to the corner. either way, keldon was the bigger culprit here
i didnt know there was already a "mistakes" video for yesterday's game lol, i'll have to check it out. does that guy still whine every time the spurs decide not to have collins switch onto a guard?
He does, and he still thinks Pop is terrible. The video on last night basically really tore into Wemby's defensive awareness. That was interesting consider how much right Victor did during the same game.
EDIT: May as well add it into this video too:
the keldon play we were discussing didnt seem to make it into this vid. i mean, at least in that play the guys were all somewhat doing the right thing, keldon just lacked hustle
This guy cracks me up![]()
If he can be traded to get an Ivey, then yes Keldon is the best candidate
I traded Keldon for Chris Paul in 2K and it worked out pretty well, tbh
(We also got Moody and Looney in the deal)
Maybe I was thinking of the Branham play at 7:02, which is the same rotation that gets messed up in a similar way.
He's entertaining even if hyperbolic (basically thinks every coach whose teams he covers are also just as bad). But I think it's important for folks who actually want to talk about the Spurs' defensive issues to get a sense of what they're not doing well. Watching this guy's videos definitely underscores how much of defense is just being coached and disciplined compared to having physical tools. The Spurs could absolutely be an average defense with the player they have, if not really good given they have Wemby. But they can't do that if they keep making all of these mental errors. Just have preset rules and stick with those, and they'll work most of the time.
a lot of these aren't really mental errors happening on the court, its clearly the techniques they are taught, like how they are approaching the sideline screens
I agree on a lot of that -- and those videos certainly don't let you forget the coaching issues -- but I don't think Pop is telling them to defend with their backs to the sideline, not sprinting in transition and not boxing out. On that last point, the Spurs are amazing bad at boxing out. Collins is okay, and Bassey was okay for a bench big. Keldon is decent for a wing. But those are the only guys in the top 150 players. An underrated aspect of the Medium Three Spurs teams were Kawhi's insane ability to rebound and Green's ability to box out PFs to allow his guys to get boards. 2-5 all contributed to securing boards. Nowadays, the Spurs seem to have no idea how to do it. It's probably not the case that Pop is instructing them to avoiding box-outs, and I doubt they never learned how to do it at other levels. They just don't seem to pay attention to their guy after the shot goes up.
Who's giving up a young star for Keldon and some Hawks picks in the mid teens![]()
im not saying you're making this up, but this is the kind of thing that you could easily make up because you love danny![]()
EPM does have him as 88 percentile on defense and 92 percentile scoring at the rim. He did improve a ton on 2 of his major weakness last season.
At the same time, there are reasons I was a huge fan. I will say that every regular season from 2011-2012 to 2017-2018, the Spurs rebounded better when Danny was on the floor than when he was on the bench. Only in 2016-2017 did the team allow offensive rebounds at a higher rate with Danny on the floor (the Spurs just had enough of their own offensive boards to make the whole year positive). Playoffs had more variance. I think that had to do with the different ways Pop would use Green and Kawhi in the playoffs as well as the higher level of compe ion in general, especially when talking about starters. They were always good, but some years the bench was better.
Greatest one on three defender in NBA history.
Yikes. But I'm sure he's a very supportive father. Lol.
Is that guy Lewis Black's druggie son or some ?
It's a shame Danny isn't remembered as the best transition defender of his era because Lebron got a chase-down block on Iggy one time.
Yeah, but if you ask me, Keldon isn't the guy who's scoring output should come mainly from shooting threes.
Vassell for example is, but we all got hyped about Keldon because of his motor and the ability to constantly attack the paint.
That has been completely neutered over the past year or so.
So it’s better that Keldon gives up a 3 than that Branham does? Oh, never mind.
The smartness of that double by Keldon is arguable. It looks like game plan, tho, so Keldon probably can’t be faulted for trying it.
this time, keldon made the correct decision. sochan then moves to cover for keldon and plays between the two guys. good. keldon's double is effective, distracts davis enough for wemby to swipe at the ball, AD has to pick it up. good. as soon as he passes it out, johnson turns around and starts... jogging toward the corner. …
The team did get the rotations correct, at least. That’s progress.
You missed the first problem with what Keldon did. He jumped at Davis’ pass.
The jump, which accomplished absolutely nothing good, put Keldon 6 or 7’ farther from where he needed to go, to rotate, and it gave him momentum in the wrong direction. The jump contributed significantly to the delay in Keldon getting across to the corner.
If Keldon had knocked it off, with that foolish jump, and just rotated, he would probably have gotten there in time.
Notice Branham jumping at the ball, also, when Davis passed. The idiots think they’re kangaroos.
On another note, Victor needs some serious big-man coaching, which the Spurs are obviously incompetent to provide. When Victor has his elbows in, and his hands in front, (as that video shows,) he’s maybe 3’ wide, if that. When Victor extends his arms he’s 8’ wide. It doesn’t take a math major to know which is better for defense.
The whole team would do better if they’d stop the foolish kangaroo imitations, and stop swiping at the ball pointlessly, and just extend their arms and play defense. But that would take coaching to achieve.
Huh? If branham doubled there it would have been a disaster since that’s just a simple pass from Davis with no opportunity to rotate. It’s the proverbial “double team from one pass away” when that happens. That’s bad.
this is why I’m glad that in this scenario, the double came from keldon and not branham
You’re probably right on next year. I think distant picks of quality would get the Spurs attention, and teams whose stars will be in the decline soon like GSW, Philly, etc should be top targets. In think that CP3 contract will start burning a hole in GSW’s pocket if they don’t use it as an expiring this year.
The other team to watch is the Knicks, who have interesting assets. They were said to be saving their war chest for Embiid or Towns, but both of their teams have righted their ships. Would they get desperate and look for less high profile players now? Do the Spurs like IQ enough?
You really do think it’s better that Keldon gave up the 3 than that Branham did.
You’re funny.
sure jan
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