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    No matter who they draft in the first round, I’m hoping the Spurs grab Tyler Kolek early in the second round. Lots of experience and can shoot it. Worst case he’s great for Austin and becomes the backup PG in a couple years assuming Tre leaves.

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    wow these college pgs have been so average...Waiting for 1 or two of them to stand out but nothing.
    Always go to UK to find them. Dillingham is rocketing up mocks everywhere. He’s gone from mid 20s to #12 on TaT in just a couple of weeks.

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    any defensive rebounding power fowards that can shoot the 3 to look out for to pair
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    Best rebounder in the second round will be Zach Eddey a big old school Center - Actually would not mind grabbing him early second if would be like football having a home run hitter in Wemby and a big Oll Thhumper in Zach

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    Well he’s a far better athlete than Bertans for starters. They’re not similar players at all. Holland is an elite athlete who likes to attack the rim while Bertans is the opposite.
    I like what I saw from Holland’s highlight reel. Reminds me of Nephew the way he uses his physicality on drives.

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    Always go to UK to find them. Dillingham is rocketing up mocks everywhere. He’s gone from mid 20s to #12 on TaT in just a couple of weeks.
    dude looks kinda small

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    dude looks kinda small
    Dillingham 6’3”
    Quickley 6’3”
    Maxey 6’3”

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    My Dec picks: Topic (2); Dunn (10)

    This is a fit draft and those are the two big needs with this roster, PG and stout 3/D dude.

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    any defensive rebounding power fowards that can shoot the 3 to look out for to pair
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    John Collins is free.

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    Too early to say conclusively, but at this early point in the draft analysis it doesn't seem like many obvious #2 players in this draft to play next to VW but way more third bananas in the top 6? Tinking of Risacher and Buzelis here. I think Sarr might be too raw and not fit what we need: on ball creation/gravity/scoring talent. Still assessing. Not sure what to make of Jakobe Walter other than the very low assist numbers seem concerning. Anyway, just throwing ideas around.

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    IMO, the Spurs arent drafting a natural PG, if theyre drafting one at all. They will be aiming for a guard with SG size and with untapped passing potential that they can slot in at PG. They have an offensive scheme in mind, and with plenty of evidence they wont change from it— they do not want a PG that will be ball dominant and quarterback the offense for a full ~30 mins like a normal point guard would. Thats what most people are accustomed to.

    I think they will search for a guard like Keyonte George who’s looking like a total steal. He was viewed as inefficient in college, and no one thought he had point guard chops. But he’s looking like he’s the real deal.

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    My Dec picks: Topic (2); Dunn (10)

    This is a fit draft and those are the two big needs with this roster, PG and stout 3/D dude.
    the problem is that Dunn is shooting 27% from 3. He looks amazing in defense but he would be another player who cannot shoot. I think that if he comes Sochan has to go.

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    Always go to UK to find them. Dillingham is rocketing up mocks everywhere. He’s gone from mid 20s to #12 on TaT in just a couple of weeks.

    IMO, the Spurs arent drafting a natural PG, if theyre drafting one at all. They will be aiming for a guard with SG size and with untapped passing potential that they can slot in at PG. They have an offensive scheme in mind, and with plenty of evidence they wont change from it— they do not want a PG that will be ball dominant and quarterback the offense for a full ~30 mins like a normal point guard would. Thats what most people are accustomed to.

    I think they will search for a guard like Keyonte George who’s looking like a total steal. He was viewed as inefficient in college, and no one thought he had point guard chops. But he’s looking like he’s the real deal.
    Agreed. Obviously, it's probably a longshot that Dillingham is the next Maxey and it won't be easy to even be the next Quickley, but hopefully they don't continue to blindly rule out people/players like this because he doesn't fit their narrow minded definition of a Spur or their preferred archetype of lead guard.

    The true biggest need isn't a position/role, it's positive impact players in general. It's highly unlikely they'll be putting the finishing touches on a championship contending core in this draft, so they shouldn't let that notion consume them.

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    With that said, I do really, really like Rob Dillington. If there is a standout talent at PG, I have no doubt theyll pick up that talent. Whether Rob is that, I dont know. From the glimpses Ive seen, Rob is the only one so far that has shown he might be more than the average player than the rest of the draft seems to feel like. However, the dude looks tiny, like Isaiah Thomas type tiny that he may be a bust on the defensive side which will not be favorable. A lot of guys lost inches last year during the combine: Keyonte George was no longer 6’6”, Cam Whitmore was nowhere close to having a 7’2” wingspan, Dariq Whitehead wasnt 6’8”…

    My other fave is Ron Holland. Jakobe Walter may be something but im not sure yet.

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    Spurs may pick up enough wins to fall below 5 with their pick. Some of the popular names on this board like Sarr and Topic will be gone, then who?

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    I think Spurs will go back to losing (compe ively though). The reward is too high to get two lottery picks instead of one. Sarr AND Topic potentially, damn!

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    I think unlike past years where a top 3 pick was untouchable in a trade, the fluidity of the top of the board in this draft makes a top 3 pick much more attainable. If the spurs have someone on their draft board who they value way above anyone else, they can probably package picks to move into the top 3 more easily this year than in past years. Nobody was going to move the spurs off Wemby last year. But this year let's say pistons get #2 overall. What are they going to do with a guy like holland, sarr, or topic if they value their core of cade/duren/thompson? They need shooting and defense first, and more talent in general, so probably a guy like risacher, ja'kobe, or buzelis are high on their draft board. If spurs land 5 and really want a guy like holland, topic, or sarr, there's a reasonable chance that #5, toronto pick, and bulls pick for #2 can get done.
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    I think Spurs will go back to losing (compe ively though). The reward is too high to get two lottery picks instead of one. Sarr AND Topic potentially, damn!
    Why are Spurs fans high on Sarr? I mean, the kid could be great, but he just doesn't fit next to Wemby.

    The Spurs need to add some shooting bad. Way too early but, from what I've seen so far, I would be happy to walk away with Risacher and Dillingham.

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    Why are Spurs fans high on Sarr? I mean, the kid could be great, but he just doesn't fit next to Wemby.

    The Spurs need to add some shooting bad. Way too early but, from what I've seen so far, I would be happy to walk away with Risacher and Dillingham.

    The era of GSW is gone. That was tough guarding Curry and the bigs needed to be mobile. I think the Spurs can dictate the tempo with twin towers like DRob/Timmy with Sarr/Wemby. Slow down the game with tight defense controlling the boards. It’s just my opinion and I’m not at all an expert, but it’s nostalgic to get back to the Twin Towers days and being the best.

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    With that said, I do really, really like Rob Dillington. If there is a standout talent at PG, I have no doubt theyll pick up that talent. Whether Rob is that, I dont know. From the glimpses Ive seen, Rob is the only one so far that has shown he might be more than the average player than the rest of the draft seems to feel like. However, the dude looks tiny, like Isaiah Thomas type tiny that he may be a bust on the defensive side which will not be favorable. A lot of guys lost inches last year during the combine: Keyonte George was no longer 6’6”, Cam Whitmore was nowhere close to having a 7’2” wingspan, Dariq Whitehead wasnt 6’8”…

    My other fave is Ron Holland. Jakobe Walter may be something but im not sure yet.
    Yeah, I like them but it's going to come down to measurements to see who really moves up or down because I think it's going to have a big impact if Rob is only 6'1 and Holland is only 6'6 playing SF as far as where they are picked.

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    Early impressions…

    Zaccharie looks like Jett Howard or Patrick Baldwin. Maybe an upside of Trey Murphy maybe. Wouldnt draft with a top pick.

    The only reason I would draft Sarr is if I thought he would do everything Spurs fans thought Zach Collins would do. If he’s another pf/c tweener who cant effectively guard either position because hes too thin to guard centers, or falls for fakes because he has zero awareness like Zollins does… I would stay far away. Wemby is also gaining momentum on why he should continue being a full time C— thats because hes at his best when hes rim protecting, and unless Sarr can defend the perimeter full time… then he shouldnt be drafted.

    Buzelis looks average

    Collier looks like he wont surpass White or DJ Murray

    Why would we draft Ryan Dunn when we have Sidy Cissoko already— a player Pop gave massive praise for being tremendous on defense. Theyre too much alike… two players who need to drastically improve on offense

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    The era of GSW is gone. That was tough guarding Curry and the bigs needed to be mobile. I think the Spurs can dictate the tempo with twin towers like DRob/Timmy with Sarr/Wemby. Slow down the game with tight defense controlling the boards. It’s just my opinion and I’m not at all an expert, but it’s nostalgic to get back to the Twin Towers days and being the best.
    It’s not just Curry. Curry wasn’t the dominant league player until the rule change of 2015, outlawing fighting thru picks, and making everyPnR an automatic switch. The league isn’t going to suddenly revert to the play style of10 years ago because Curry retires. The three ball is here to stay. This style of plays here to stay.

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    Early impressions…

    Zaccharie looks like Jett Howard or Patrick Baldwin. Maybe an upside of Trey Murphy maybe. Wouldnt draft with a top pick.

    The only reason I would draft Sarr is if I thought he would do everything Spurs fans thought Zach Collins would do. If he’s another pf/c tweener who cant effectively guard either position because hes too thin to guard centers, or falls for fakes because he has zero awareness like Zollins does… I would stay far away. Wemby is also gaining momentum on why he should continue being a full time C— thats because hes at his best when hes rim protecting, and unless Sarr can defend the perimeter full time… then he shouldnt be drafted.

    Buzelis looks average

    Collier looks like he wont surpass White or DJ Murray

    Why would we draft Ryan Dunn when we have Sidy Cissoko already— a player Pop gave massive praise for being tremendous on defense. Theyre too much alike… two players who need to drastically improve on offense
    Cissoko never produced the st-ocks that Dunn does, and can you really have too many defenders on your roster?

    Dunn could turn out to be something in the neighborhood of Herb Jones, or what Thuybulle could have been.

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    The era of GSW is gone. That was tough guarding Curry and the bigs needed to be mobile. I think the Spurs can dictate the tempo with twin towers like DRob/Timmy with Sarr/Wemby. Slow down the game with tight defense controlling the boards. It’s just my opinion and I’m not at all an expert, but it’s nostalgic to get back to the Twin Towers days and being the best.
    I feel the same way for the most part.

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    Spurs may pick up enough wins to fall below 5 with their pick. Some of the popular names on this board like Sarr and Topic will be gone, then who?
    If Topic and Sarr are both gone then this is who I would pick with the Spurs pick:

    Matas Buzelis - SF - 6'11
    Zaccharie Risacher - SF - 6'9
    Cody Williams - SF - 6'8


    With Raptors pick I am looking at:

    Stephon Castle - PG - 6'6
    Aaron Bradshaw - C - 7'1
    Tidjane Salaun - PF - 6'10

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