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He's a late 2nd round pick. If he even makes the team it's a success.
The whole position-less talk, with Spurs not really needing a true PG, makes absolutely no sense to me.
The NBA isn't going position-less, at least regarding to the PG slot. The vast majority of teams (about 90%) are playing with a PG, there are even some teams playing with 2 PGs. Few of these PGs, like Harden or Simmons, are atypical but it has always existed (Magic Johnson...) and these players have all the skills needed to play that spot. Teams playing without a PG aren't doing because they think it's the future of the NBA, cir stances have just push them to be without one. For example, it's because of a great trade opportunity that Suns are playing without a PG.
Spurs need a quality PG, it isn't their only need but it's the biggest one. Getting one in that draft is looking more difficult than a couple of months ago, because most of the high ranked PG prospects have struggled, but it should remain Spurs top priority.
He's a late 2nd round pick. If he even makes the team it's a success.
Great bball iq? How do you know what his bball IQ is? Because he can make an occasional fancy pass?
That term is used too often in here for Spur players (with limited abilities) as to why a player is so good.
Let's get some players with athleticism who can finish strong on a fast break, players who can fire a quick 3 point shot with accuracy and hit with a high %, players who are quick enough to stay with offensive players on defense, players who have leaping ability to pose a threat with block shots, players who can break down a defense and take it to the basket. Wemby is going to need some help.
Night after night the other team looks far more athletic than the Spurs.
He was picked in the 40s, and the other guys people here really wanted with the pick in the 30s traded to MIN, Rupert, is also sucking ass.
The head scratching piece is the guaranteed money (and roster spot) for Sidy, but I guess it’s so little money that who cares.
The last 4 championship PG is a SF, SG, SG, SG as teenagers. Look for young combos not true points. That is why last year I was high on Keyonte despite being a SG. SG with glimpses of playmaking like a certain 12th pick.
I'm not 100% on Ryan Dunn, but he's definitely someone to keep an eye on. I think comparisons to Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Thybulle are a bit off the mark, though the lack of a three ball is an understandable worry. But in terms of offensive efficiency, Dunn is far beyond what either of those guys showed in college. MKG shot 53.5% from 2 with a TS% of 57%. Thybulle's best college shooting year was his senior year, where he shot 55.5% from 2, and his overall college career TS% was 55%. Dunn, as a sop re, is shooting 73% from 2, with a TS% of 61.2%. None of the three will ever be a major cog in the offense, but I think Dunn has shown at an early age that he can be extremely efficient in ways that the other two never could.
Brandon Clarke might be a better compare for Ryan Dunn (as opposed to MKG or Thybulle).
Yeah, Brandon Clark with better measurements at 6'8" + 7'1" wingspan.
I think the Thuybulle comparisons were on the defensive side of the ball, a ton of st-ocks, at least they were for me.
just gotta talk about PG as a role on offense rather than a "position" and all the "positionless" arguments are rendered moot
you need somebody to run the show and be a table-setter, the guy who causes the initial reaction/breakdown of the defense that catalyzes into a good look somewhere
whether he's 6'2 or 6'5 or 6'8, whether he can hit outside shots of the pick and roll or not, need somebody who can fill that role on offense
I just had a realization
the Spurs are going to target players who already have an understanding and confidence of how to play basketball
great players adapt quickly, as Wemby has shown.
Topic is a real target, probably at the top of the board. The processing speed seems to be all there. He looks like he reads plays before they happen, which cant be said for many in this year’s draft.
Rob Dillingham is the other guy who won’t need to be developed much… not because his IQ is off the charts like Topic, but because he is oozing with confidence.
I said I liked Holland, but he looks like another dude who will go through years of development. Likewise with Jakobe
The team needs a top pick who will come in and lead immediately. Does anyone really think Wemby will go through another year of this?
Let’s say Sarr is ready to go and knows how to play… how much is a center really expected to change a team’s outlook by himself? It’s a playmaker who does that. Not a center.
Unless more players step up, I might just trade out of the top of this draft for an established 2nd/3rd tier star to pair with Wemby. It’s pretty much garbage so far
a lot of players at the top that people are falling for because they have nice height and/or athletic ability but barely show anything spectacular on the court tbh
Topic to be Gen-Z tony parker. Next year Cooper flagg is unrealistic, but with potentially 3 draft picks in the lottery, draft Hugo Gonzalez to be Gen-Z manu. I still believe in sochan. Even though it couldn't seem farther away, we're way closer to being a great team than it appears. All you need is to hit on 1-2 more draft picks, and thanks to the Hawks, the spurs have a few more shots in the next 2 years.
Yeah, it's not like Abdul-Jabbar, Robinson, O'Neal, Duncan, etc. did that or Jokic and Embiid are doing that.
Topic and Hugo Gonzales would be pure joy to watch I am crossing my fingers. I do agree the pick should be Topic and I am starting to think Buzelis has the upside and would be a good fit for us. With the Raptors pick I am gonna go out on a limb and pick Tidjane Salaun the SF/PF - 6’10 - French connection. He is a bit of a project but I really love that he plays with a passion I don’t see with a lot of players in this draft.
I did not myself clear. My post is on the basis of this draft being weak and not having any prospect like those you mentioned. Sarr’s nowhere close as a prospect.
Been playing with Tankathon's simulator. Pretty impressed.
We should get at least 2 solid contributors next year.
Would be sweet if we landed Baba in the 2nd with the 33rd pick.
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Zach Edey at 7' 4.25" from Purdue would be a get with our 48th slotted pick.
https://sports.yahoo.com/2024-nba-mo...181955815.html
Sarr going number 1
Good. It benefits the Spurs if they dont get first. Anyone thinking they should “twin towers” this thing is mistaken. As the article says, Sarr is averaging 10 and 5 off the bench…. The player the Spurs draft with their pick has to have the potential to earn a max contract in their prime. A 20 and 10 player normally does that. Having two 20 and 10 front court players is unheard of. People say David Robinson worked fine with Timmy but that was at the end of his prime… did that version of Rob deserve a max contract? You handicap the rest of the team because the cap cant be spent on any more good players on the wing or guard depth.
Interesting. Arguably DET also doesn’t need Sarr with Duren in the fold. The best team on fit would be WAS.
Didn’t appreciate Cody Williams was the brother of Jalen Williams of OKC. I like that
is cody williams that good....Is he better then kj and sochan
Keldon is not long for this team man, but fair question about Sochan.
My ideal wing type would be a Jabari Smith type next to Sochan and Wemby. Solid D, excellent shooter, doesn’t need the ball to impact winning. Don’t know enough about Williams to know if he’s that guy, but the tools look interesting especially if he can approach his brothers BBIQ.
Less talented boban
It’s amazing how much Isaiah Collier still leads up so many of these mock draft articles (“he’s a perfect fit for the Spurs!”) with how little he has shown so far at USC. I think it underscores how little effort those sports journalists put into watching games and how much they just regurgitate AAU hype.
My rule of thumb is,if you don’t produce on the next level, your stock drops. Don’t care what you did in HS or AAU.
Collier IS finally starting to drop, coming in at #7 on the latest TaT mock, and #8 on Yahoo.
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