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How do you rank the quality of the various mocks out there? Assume Givony is near the top, but not sure how to weight the others honestly
Somehow didn't include Olajuwon.
Yeah, investing significantly in two C's in this era would be foolish. It doesn't matter how skilled or "unicorn" like they are, every offense is better with one big and and no matter how good they are offensively, most of the great bigs are higher impact defensively anyway, so they don't need another big alongside most of the time.
How do you rank the quality of the various mocks out there? Assume Givony is near the top, but not sure how to weight the others honestly
If the draft was today, it would be crazy if the Spurs didn’t draft one of Topic, Dillingham, or Proctor.
The best way for me to evaluate players positioning is to see them across a number of mocks. No one gets it all correct.
If the Spurs want Topic they have to stay in the bottom three. Topic has moved up draft boards.
If you want Topic you shouldn't be wanting to see wins. Detroit may pass on Topic, maybe not Washington.
Ja'Kobe Walter is now atop the usatoday mock draft.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nba-m...isaiah-collier
I still like Topic and Sarr but Walter is right there too. All three are different (versatile straw that stirs, dirty dog with skills, pure scorer) but all three could fit the Spurs nicely going forward.
whats TaT?
was awkward for the wolves last year but has worked out so far this year
There are no absolutes in draft philosophy. Before Magic, no one had a 6'9" PG, and if 6 years ago anyone had said "hey, you should draft a 270 lb unathletic center and make him your leading assist guy and de facto PG," every draft analyst would've laughed at the naivete of that opinion... until Denver did just that and won a championship. Basketball is ever evolving, and we're sure to see some approaches in the future that will be completely new.
those players typically go very high in the draft. We need to tank to get those players.
Let’s take a look at the needs of the compe ion.
DET: I like them for Holland. they definitely pass on a PG having already spent significant draft capital there. And with Duren maybe pass on Sarr too, talk about a weird fit.
WAS: needs everything so can see them struggling between Sarr and the top PG prospect. They also suck ass at drafting so they may just go for the shiny object, which will probably be Sarr.
POR: won’t take the top PG prospect again. Alton situation is the wild card re Sarr. They’re probably a home for the top SF prospect if given the chance. If Holland is gone, best of Matas, Rechaire, or Williams go here.
CHA: won’t take the top PG prospect of given the chance with Ball locked up. Might be a Sarr home depending on how they see Mark Williams, but my money is on them taking the best SF/SG prospect available to them.
Others: UTH, TOR, and CHI absolutely take the best PG prospect of given the chance.
BOTTOM LINE: of the ty 5, WAS is the top threat to nab the top PG prospect if they select ahead of us. The best PG prospect probably doesn’t fall below 4. It will depend on what the gulf is between the top two PG prospects in the end, but if the top PG is off the board Spurs have to take the best SF prospect available to them with their natural pick (Holland, Matas Rachisrre, Williams).
(I think Memphis will end up moving out of bottom 5).
Make him an enforcer if he wants a roster spot. Someone playing dirty with Wemby, BOOM!
You gotta send a message that we won't tolerate dirty play, by having fire to use against fire.
Old school, but we need a protector.
thats what people were saying collins/sochan would be
So well that they're 17th on offense with two of the best shooting bigs in the league.
I'm higher on Towns than most, but they don't have the (super) star or fire power to be legitimate contenders.
Right now I’ve got Topic (2) Dunn (10) Almansa (33) and Ivisic (48)
As far as PG goes, I’m firmly in the Tank for Topic camp. That kid would make everyone better, plus our roster construction just becomes so much easier if we grab Topic as our floor general. But what if he’s gone before our pick. Not seeing another PG sitting in the top 8 players worth taking. In this scenario we take a SF first then grab Dillingham? with the Toronto pick (10-12). This kid is fun as , can shoot, and has been passing the ball this year. Wondering if he’s the consolation prize at PG if we miss out on Topic, or would he be a hard pass by the Spurs because of his size.
If he's gone before the Spurs' natural pick, then take one of the two Kentucky PGs with the TOR pick. I assume Collier will also be gone in this scenario as i dont seem him dropping to #10. If any of WAS, CHI, UTA (and TOR) pick ahead of us, they are the biggest threats to take the best PG prospect (seemingly Topic).
Topic is likely going to end up being a top-3 pick, maybe even top-2 in this weak class, so unless the Spurs get a lucky bounce again with the lottery balls, I don't see him being a Spur tbh. Which sucks, but it is what it is. Hence why I'd rather go all-in on Trae Young this Summer.
I predict our First Pick will be in the 4-7 range unfortunately though, as I think the Spurs are going to finally drop in the lottery for the first time in franchise history. We're still the only team in history to never drop in the lottery. Just feels like it's our time tbh.
With that said, both of those things are unlikely, and I think the Spurs will simply end up drafting BPA at both spots if we somehow hold onto that Raptors pick (not holding my breath), regardless of what picks we end up with.
Also, the more I watch Isaiah Collier, the less I like him tbh. He's inefficient, hesitant to shoot the 3-ball, and his defensive effort is ing terrible. Of course these are all things that can be improved upon, and he likely will to a degree, but as of right now he's not in my top-5 targets anymore tbh.
If the spurs end up 4-6 are you willing to package that + the raptors pick +/- bulls pick to move up to the top 2 knowing that you still own all of your picks and atlanta's for the next 2-3 years?Topic is likely going to end up being a top-3 pick, maybe even top-2 in this weak class, so unless the Spurs get a lucky bounce again with the lottery balls, I don't see him being a Spur tbh. Which sucks, but it is what it is. Hence why I'd rather go all-in on Trae Young this Summer.
I predict our First Pick will be in the 4-7 range unfortunately though, as I think the Spurs are going to finally drop in the lottery for the first time in franchise history. We're still the only team in history to never drop in the lottery. Just feels like it's our time tbh.
With that said, both of those things are unlikely, and I think the Spurs will simply end up drafting BPA at both spots if we somehow hold onto that Raptors pick (not holding my breath), regardless of what picks we end up with.
Yes. But I don’t think whoever lands #2 would be willing to do that.
Matas Buzelis has been playing better as of late for the G-League unite after a slow start to the season. He’s another guy who seems like a player the Spurs would really like. A long, versatile 6’11 skilled wing who can do a bit of everything. Basically what they thought Luka Samanic would be. He’s got some Frank Wagner to him. Spurs are probably pretty high on him tbh.
He shoots poorly, and is a scatter gun passer. Those two, in tandem, are extremely problematic for an NBA PG.
If you want to truly feature Wemby, you should probably look elsewhere. Walter is an EXTREMELY reluctant passer.
For who though? I actually like the flip scenario: trade out of 2, down to 4/5 and pick up smother asset or player.
So this suggests that there's not much difference in the top 5 with regards to talent, which is actually great news. It means that if the spurs do fall in love with someone who's projected to go top 3, it's not only possible, but probable that they have the assets to move up to get him if necessary without sacrificing future unprotected draft picks. Me personally, yes as of now I'd trade the raptors pick and the bulls pick if necessary to get topic, I think he's worth 2 lottery picks. This might change by the end of the season though.
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