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    Netanyahu has got no such thing. This will stop and this will be looked at closely. If Israel is a real democracy they will do away with him. He still cant get away from facts like his own soldiers shooting his captives. He still cant control his press as well (Putin; this would never be published in Russia). In that sense Israel is a lot like the US. Trump is a highly disruptive megalomaniac criminal. We also have a choice about getting rid of cancer. We know who he is.

    And you had to know this when Hamas was successful. They dont give a about Palestinian people. They need lifelines to survive, that means death and money. And there are countries willing to give both. Iran via Russias blessings and encouragement. Hamas upper crust in Iran knew exactly what would happen.

    What the Israeli settlers are doing in the West Bank was/is an added bonus. The world sees this through the press. Something hater and sometimes yourself never catch on to. The fourth branch of government is the press allowed to do a job. Tainted in some respects as always, but enough elements giving the Truth to be incredibly valuable to the citizens. It remains for the citizens to be curious and want the truth., seek the truth.
    There are a number of long term "democratic leaders" in power still - Putin & Erdogan for example. Even if Israel was prepared to replace him, not sure this is the time. The West has been very successful in Ukraine & Gaza (keeping 3rd parties from getting involved) but leadership is transitioning. Can't fault Israel for staying with the proven hand right now.

    We know the truth. It's more the globalization of intertwined agreements and allies. Both Palestine & Israel have a justified perspective.

    Ultimately will outside funds from for example Germany (Holocaust) and USA halt or even decrease? In our lifetime I don't see it. IMO such decisions aren't as clear cut as - do you support this current military conflict and If so then we cut off support. It's complicated but like I stated before Hamas seems to be using different strategy than usual to garner International support, and seems to be smart move.

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    Netanyahu has got no such thing. This will stop and this will be looked at closely. If Israel is a real democracy they will do away with him. He still cant get away from facts like his own soldiers shooting his captives. He still cant control his press as well (Putin; this would never be published in Russia). In that sense Israel is a lot like the US. Trump is a highly disruptive megalomaniac criminal. We also have a choice about getting rid of cancer. We know who he is.

    And you had to know this when Hamas was successful. They dont give a about Palestinian people. They need lifelines to survive, that means death and money. And there are countries willing to give both. Iran via Russias blessings and encouragement. Hamas upper crust in Iran knew exactly what would happen.

    What the Israeli settlers are doing in the West Bank was/is an added bonus. The world sees this through the press. Something hater and sometimes yourself never catch on to. The fourth branch of government is the press allowed to do a job. Tainted in some respects as always, but enough elements giving the Truth to be incredibly valuable to the citizens. It remains for the citizens to be curious and want the truth., seek the truth.
    Horse . Blinken///Biden, in close association with CNN have already put a stiff stopper in the bottle for Yahoo. They saw the opportunity to put Yahoo in the jackpot and jumped high, peeg, & wide, on-the-spot BEFORE he was high tech, or, otherwise lynched by his people WITHIN the first 48 hours. They went in' quick! Now Yahoo owes the U.S.A., and hugely so. He ain't goin' nowhere, son.

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    The top officials from Mossad, the CIA and Qatar prime minister are meeting in Warsaw.

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    The top officials from Mossad, the CIA and Qatar prime minister are meeting in Warsaw.
    It took over a month to recall and get them Mossads to report in person from the sunny climbs of South America where they was a searching a high & a low for Nazi's, never mind they'd/Nazi's been in Ukraine forever.

    I see Qatar is back in the good graces of Biden. They're in & out of the dog house so often it's hard to keep track of the holers.

    And last but not least the CIA...finally awakened at the wheel when Ham busted that Jew hole wide open.

    We're still waiting for CNN, MSNBC and FOX to question them about Ham getting into the Jewish Clock business on CIA's watch. They cleaned that in' Jew clock something fearsome, eh, kids? I think I'll grow gray and die before that ever happens. I'm already old.

    Big shots.

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    Israel offs three of its own hostages, heads back to the negotiating table


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    Israel offs three of its own hostages, heads back to the negotiating table

    An olive branch by Yahoo. tee, hee.

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    Then when they blow up the Twin Towers we can't understand why.

    tee, hee.

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    it's not that complicated, Israel has responded to a horrific massacre with a world historical crime. kind of like the US did with the invasion of Iraq.



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    it's not that complicated, Israel has responded to a horrific massacre with a world historical crime. kind of like the US did with the invasion of Iraq.
    But it will never be portrayed that way in this country, nor in the [history books/annals]. Not even close. CNN, MSNBC, FOX, all of 'em have been straining at their limits 24/7 to frame it altogether different...to preserve Yahoo, preserve the Jews, and most importantly...preserve the purity of The Holocaust...that purity cannot be lost within these massacres. That, above all else is the lone mission of MSM, and the State Department.

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    sound off, SpursTalkers, is mass starvation enforced by a blockade a legitimate war tactic?

    if so, why?

    More than half a million people in Gaza — a quarter of the population — are starving, according to a report Thursday by the U.N. and other agencies that highlights the humanitarian crisis caused by Israel’s bombardment and siege on the territory in response to Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack.

    The extent of the population’s hunger eclipsed even the near-famines in Afghanistan and Yemen of recent years, according to figures in the report.
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-ha...4c7c9e3c4e0deb

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    sound off, SpursTalkers, is mass starvation enforced by a blockade a legitimate war tactic?

    if so, why?

    https://apnews.com/article/israel-ha...4c7c9e3c4e0deb
    Did they block aid coming from Egypt?

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    Did they block aid coming from Egypt?
    Absolutely they have. Israel controls how much enters at the Rafah crossing, and has even bombed it from time to time. The amount permitted to come in is far short of daily nutritional needs and has been for 2 1/2 months.

    The Kerem Shalom crossing got bombed yesterday, I think, just a few days after it was declared open.

    Gaza has had zero control over its border for 15 years, and was already sort of half-throttled to start with. The incipient famine is 100% on Israel.

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    Absolutely they have. Israel controls how much enters at the Rafah crossing, and has even bombed it from time to time. The amount permitted to come in is far short of daily nutritional needs and has been for 2 1/2 months.

    The Kerem Shalom crossing got bombed yesterday, I think, just a few days after it was declared open.

    Gaza has had zero control over its border for 15 years, and was already sort of half-throttled to start with. The incipient famine is 100% on Israel.
    So then it is not a blockade.

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    So then it is not a blockade.
    Sure it is. When another country controls who and what can enter your country and when, that's a blockade.

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/...glish/blockade

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    Do you have your own definition of the word?

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    Sure it is. When another country controls who and what can enter your country and when, that's a blockade.

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/...glish/blockade
    block·ade
    /ˌbläˈkād/
    noun
    an act or means of sealing off a place to prevent goods or people from entering or leaving.
    "there was a blockade of humanitarian aid"

    No that is when you block any crossing. Most nations have some level of control over border crossings. Aid is allowed through.

    I have been reading about huge distribution problems which makes sense seeing that it is a war zone.

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    block·ade
    /ˌbläˈkād/
    noun
    an act or means of sealing off a place to prevent goods or people from entering or leaving.
    "there was a blockade of humanitarian aid"

    No that is when you block any crossing. Most nations have some level of control over border crossings. Aid is allowed through.

    I have been reading about huge distribution problems which makes sense seeing that it is a war zone.
    If country A limits how much food, fuel and medicine country B can get, that's a blockade by the plain words of the definition.

    If there's some more technical or specialized definition you're relying on, please share it.

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    If country A limits how much food, fuel and medicine country B can get, that's a blockade by the plain words of the definition.

    If there's some more technical or specialized definition you're relying on, please share it.
    So you think that sealing off a place implies a measured input/output flow should be possible?

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    So you think that sealing off a place implies a measured input/output flow should be possible?
    If a place is partially sealed off, it is still sealed off. To argue that only a perfect blockade is really a blockade is facile.

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    anyway, you dodged a direct question

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    And nevermind that Egypt is much more if not moreso difficult when it comes to what they are letting cross. They are letting zero people in much like Jordan.

    While you are off on your holiday in Cambodia the entire Sunni culture's leadership has taken their position and it is not the same place.

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    If a place is partially sealed off, it is still sealed off. To argue that only a perfect blockade is really a blockade is facile.
    No that means it is sealed off in places and not sealed off in others.

    Speaking of facile, choosing words like 'blockade,' and all the other similarly flammatory rhetoric you have been quoting lately is precisely cheap, facile tactics.

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    No that means it is sealed off in places and not sealed off in others.

    Speaking of facile, choosing words like 'blockade,' and all the other similarly flammatory rhetoric you have been quoting lately is precisely cheap, facile tactics.
    If Israel's actions fit the literal definitions of "blockade" and "genocide" that isn't cheap or facile to point out. It's objective.

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