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Correct. Which leads me to - these guys can’t read NBA defenses. Do the Spurs not BBIQ test players before drafting them? Some of this stuff is pretty simple which makes it so bizarre.
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Correct. Which leads me to - these guys can’t read NBA defenses. Do the Spurs not BBIQ test players before drafting them? Some of this stuff is pretty simple which makes it so bizarre.
We're also being prisoners of the moment in the sense that we're forgetting that play is not even in the top-20 of the most egregious misses to an obvious wide-open Wemby this season.
There's nothing to argue at this point other than whether this is all just player incompetence, or a mix of that and freezing Wemby out.
I was watching a Timberwolves game last week, and couldn't help but laugh a little when the announcers got very excited on one play where Kyle Anderson was being guarded in the paint by a 6'4" guy. The announcers: "Kyle's got a mismatch, Kyle's got a mismatch, get him the ball!" Kyle is 6'9", so he had a 5" advantage on his defender.
Wembanyama has a greater mismatch on pretty much every possession.
Yeah, so that's the context I was looking for, and it's a bit worse than the still image suggested. This looks like it was a set play with Vassell setting a screen for Wemby so Victor can get the ball at the wing I don't know if the play was specifically to get Wemby a shot or if there was something else going on. The execution sucks though. Vassell makes no contact on his screen, and Victor only gets open because Vuc overcompensated and sort of ran himself out of the play and Wemby takes him backdoor. I think there is a window to make this pass right after the cut where it's not as risky as it looked to be in the still shot. Jeremy looks like he was expecting Victor to get to the wing, but that was taken away by Vuc's overcompensation. I think he should've been able to adjust to what was actually happening on the court, but I also think the Spurs need to be able to execute their players. Going forward, the Spurs are going to have to be able to run plays to get Wemby good looks, so they'll need to fix their timing and placement.
Yep we talked about this. Champ had Wemby for a dump-off. I do think that's just bad vision.
Huh? You think Sochan has a lob angle there? There might be an angle for like a pocket pass. But ignoring Wemby catching the ball, I don't think that a pass like you described gets past the Bulls in between them. It's not like Wemby ran hard at the rim there. He was fading back to the elbow.
Bigs do have an easier time with high-low because of their size, but high-lows work because the spacing allows for a good angle and distance for a clean throw. They usually take advantage of a player fronting a guy on the side getting sealed and leaving no one blocking the big from the redirected pass.It wouldn’t be easy to loft in an arching pass with that little space but that’s the advantage of a tall passer like Sochan and it’s why bigs generally have an easy time making high-low passes.
Sochan could've passed the ball to Wemby there. I think people have too much confidence in the result being good considering how the stats are this year. But it's a pass that could've been made. But the Spurs got a better look using ball and player movement. It's not guaranteed, but "good to great" is also not guaranteed.and anyway, still think the later pass to wemby would have been just fine in that spot. Sure, the eventual dunk was a good outcome but you can’t guarantee a magical second opening will happen. Think it would have been good enough position for him even in the muddied paint to just rise up. Wemby struggles to hold position down low, so he rarely gets the ball in those spots. Gotta take those opportunities
I do think there’s a lob angle. Not necessarily an alley oop but a high pass for wemby who can extend past Drummond.
and yes you can go from good to better to best but when you can feed your best scorer the ball in the paint i think you live with that tbh
"There are some games like that," Wembanyama said. "I am not trying to force anything. ... I could sacrifice all my shots if it is best for the team."
I'm beginning to worry that Vic's personality type will not be up to the task of putting a whole team of scrubs in line.
He will excel with other smart players who want to win. Without that, I'm not sure he'll be able to be the leader we all want him to be. Which isn't saying much - losers gonna lose.
The real tragedy is he should have Pop backing him up, punch for punch, saying stuff like "he's a great kid but needs 20+ shots, even on a minutes restriction."
He won't though. He's lost the thread, Pop has.
David was a 24-year-old rookie who understood exactly who he was on the court from his first game. Like with Duncan, the Spurs didn't have to "develop" him or "figure out how to use him. Victor has a long, long way to go before he's at that level. That's not an insult to him. Dude's five years younger and is playing in a more complicated time for players with his skills. But it's easy to say "feed DRob" when he's actually able to play his position. Right now, Wemby is caught between playing as a traditional big and trying to be a three-level star. They'd do well to run Robinson plays for him, but then everyone (including Victor) needs to execute those plays. Same if they want to run Dirk plays or Durant plays or whatever. Run some plays for him and have him do his part. I'd far prefer the Spurs to run the plays and ignore if things come open for a while just to make sure they get the plays down rather than what they're doing now. But I reject the idea that they should basically let a player freestyle through the offense, regardless of what pick he was taken at. I don't think that helps anyone.
You can look at the reality of what Wemby is now while still showing understanding that he's going to get better. You talk about Victor getting the ball in "his spots" as if he has an established chart showing where he's good from. He doesn't have that right now. If you actually look at his shot chart (https://www.positiveresidual.com/shi...ooting-charts/) you can see it's mostly blue with some gray. Literally right at the rim is red, but that's not a "spot". The best example is the left wing, and if you want to run plays to get Wemby those looks, I'm all for it. Otherwise, he seems to be bad all over the place right now.You cannot compare him to others his size, and vs the team he's with he's absolutely the best option especially as open as he is in early to mid transition many times. If he was a terrible FT shooter, that's slightly different, but he's a good FT shooter so it's likely he either scores or gets to the line. You cannot really look at his % yet from the field since his teammates and seemingly his coach don't know how to get him the ball in his spots.
No, I think "open at the rim" means there's a clear passing angle for him to get a clean look. We keep going through this cycle of folks saying "He's tall, just throw it up there" before ing about the Spurs making those passes and Victor not being able to anything with them because he was covered in the first place. I do think there's a version of Victor who will be able to catch contested passes reliably and finish reliably. He's not there now, and that shouldn't be the plan now. Getting him non-contested catches for easy finishes should be.You seem to think "open at the rim" means no one else is in the building. He's not going to bend the defense just by running around flailing his arms while they brick 3s. He needs the ball to generate that.
I don't really see it. If Victor runs hard to rim, something might open up, but it looks like a PnP essentially.
I don't think that's wrong-headed. I think in an ideal world, you don't pass it to him there. But in that idea world Victor's already gotten a lot of better touches and will get more, so folks wouldn't see this particular play as an issue.and yes you can go from good to better to best but when you can feed your best scorer the ball in the paint i think you live with that tbh
Trade these es and get some role players that can feed Wembey.
Devin seems like the only one I'd hold off on.
Worst case we should be able to get a very good trade for him.
Thing about Vassell is he is probably the only dude on the team who can say he needs to get his shot, other than Wemby. If there's anyone on the team i'm moderately ok with missing Wemby, it'd be Vassell.
The rest of these scrubs should be the ones saying damn yall, we need to hit our big guns more often. Nah, they're doin dumb crap like passing to contested 3 through Wemby's outstretched hands. Moron Sochan.
Yet it's Vassell saying, "We need to hit guys faster."
He's the only one showing a bit of a leadership right now. Vic is too, but he can't really come out and demand greatness as a rookie. He's taking his lumps, so really it's on Vassell and of course Pop (lost cause on the latter) to make this culture of Wemby first work.
Freestyle? Victor is open at the rim. Not every possession needs to be a set play. Besides, the outcome on these is usually chaotic freestyle from the other 4.
Where he stands and calls for a pass, that's where you give him the ball. The losses should be based on finding out what Victor can do, not finding out what Sochan can do. No one gives 2 s what anyone else on the team can do. They are all expendable. This many games in I think we know what the team can do, and what they cannot do is get the ball to the franchise guy. Yes, your 1st overall pick is your franchise guy on a team of scrubs like that.You can look at the reality of what Wemby is now while still showing understanding that he's going to get better. You talk about Victor getting the ball in "his spots" as if he has an established chart showing where he's good from. He doesn't have that right now. If you actually look at his shot chart (https://www.positiveresidual.com/shi...ooting-charts/) you can see it's mostly blue with some gray. Literally right at the rim is red, but that's not a "spot". The best example is the left wing, and if you want to run plays to get Wemby those looks, I'm all for it. Otherwise, he seems to be bad all over the place right now.
You'd have to see that he cannot do anything with them. You act like you've got the dream team around Christian Laettner.No, I think "open at the rim" means there's a clear passing angle for him to get a clean look. We keep going through this cycle of folks saying "He's tall, just throw it up there" before ing about the Spurs making those passes and Victor not being able to anything with them because he was covered in the first place. I do think there's a version of Victor who will be able to catch contested passes reliably and finish reliably. He's not there now, and that shouldn't be the plan now. Getting him non-contested catches for easy finishes should be.
Nobody, and I mean nobody got excited to watch Sochan or Collins this year. There was no celebration because DV got a contract.
Yeah Dave didn’t know wtf he was doing his first season. He admitted that himself several times and has constantly said that Brown taught him how to play basketball bc he had no idea how to and just did everything by reflex. So that’s a lie that Dave was some finished product at 24. Brown, being an actual good coach, taught Dave how to play and put him in positions to succeed. I don’t need revisionist history here.
Also these aren’t even the biggest red flags. How many times has Wemby been wide open being guarded by a PG and we ignored him. The excuse is that our roster just doesn’t have the court vision or the talent to get him the ball. Ok let’s say that explains everything, it doesn’t, but let’s pretend it does. Then they need to be off the roster.
Wemby will leave once his contract ends, this team is clueless
Sochan getting cooked in this Twitter thread right now. The NBA world has noticed and is letting him know.
POP...IS...THE...PROBLEM.
Everything going wrong with this team, is fixable with a better coach. Defense? You don't need talent to play Defense, you need the desire to do so. A good coach could fix that. Bad shot selection? Again, a coachable thing. Bad passing and decision making? Coach. Spacing? Coach. There are things you can't coach, but most of the things wrong with the Spurs right now can be fixed by a good coach. But, you have to coach...not be a figurehead with an 80 million dollar contract who doesn't give a f about basketball anymore.
Wemby should start calling Sohan out on the court.
Sohan is looking more and more like the main tumor of this Team's Cancer.
#TradeThese es
that's the worst part of this situation today, ing scrubs.
Its going to be a miracle to get Wemby to stay at this point.
Or at least it's getting very close to that if things don't change soon
Wemby's teammates:
Poor popovich, and poor spurs
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