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    Here is my post trying to get you to talk about the issue:



    and here is your completely non-topical response completely about me or how you will beat me.



    It's so cute too because you simultaneously do nothing but personal attacks and with the same brain you blame me for them. You must've been quite mad.

    Anywho you guys still have no evidence that IDF is intentionally targeting civilians. Deal with it.
    Why does it have to be intentional to be bad?

    That wasn't my question to you. Quit lying.

    You dodge direct questions all he time.
    ANd yes my antagonizing people and actinlg like pedantic is to 'impress' people,

    No compare and contrast, you jumping in any time another certain poster gets into an argument to save the day. That behavior is approval seeking.
    all you did was lie about what I posted and launch your pet personal attack of the month. You can't even see what you're doing these days when it's spelled out to you.

    You come across as just an angry, angry person.

    I asked you a simple, direct question and you had to go form a full on conspiracy theory about my motives and relationships and mental health.

    You are plainly and definitely overreacting and have been for quite some time.

    Why?
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    all you did was lie about what I posted and launch your pet personal attack of the month. You can't even see what you're doing these days when it's spelled out to you.

    You come across as just an angry, angry person.

    I asked you a simple, direct question and you had to go form a full on conspiracy theory about my motives and relationships and mental health.

    You are plainly and definitely overreacting and have been for quite some time.

    Why?
    You were picking up Wine's argument.

    I am trying to talk about the Hamas war. You do nothing still but talk about me.

    You are starting to sound like Joey with your unjustified assertions. What quote makes me sound mad?

    For comparison I think you are mad hen you make claims like this or "you lied," "all you try to do," and similar problem nonsense.

    Do you have proof of IDF targeting civilians or do you just want to grind your axe?

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    You were picking up Wine's argument.

    I am trying to talk about the Hamas war. You do nothing still but talk about me.
    my direct question to you wsa about the Hamas war.

    You are starting to sound like Joey with your unjustified assertions. What quote makes me sound mad?
    are you joking? You're being ridiculous.

    For comparison I think you are mad hen you make claims like this or "you lied," "all you try to do," and similar problem nonsense.
    Except you do lie.

    "All the time" is hyperbole, but you haven't stopped lying.
    Do you have proof of IDF targeting civilians or do you just want to grind your axe?
    Again, you're lying about what I said.

    I never made this claim.

    You are fighting a straw man with ad hominems.

    You're just becoming a living, breathing fallacy.

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    You were picking up Wine's argument.

    I am trying to talk about the Hamas war. You do nothing still but talk about me.

    You are starting to sound like Joey with your unjustified assertions. What quote makes me sound mad?

    For comparison I think you are mad hen you make claims like this or "you lied," "all you try to do," and similar problem nonsense.

    Do you have proof of IDF targeting civilians or do you just want to grind your axe?
    ...he's waiting for Trump to win again so he can use it on him, Lumps.

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    my direct question to you wsa about the Hamas war.

    are you joking? You're being ridiculous.

    Except you do lie.

    "All the time" is hyperbole, but you haven't stopped lying.
    Again, you're lying about what I said.

    I never made this claim.

    You are fighting a straw man with ad hominems.

    You're just becoming a living, breathing fallacy.
    The lack off self awareness is awesome Chumpie. That bolded part in particculary.

    If you want to talk about the Hamas War I will respond. Elsewise, there is nothing gained here so I will let you havve a last rant iff it comes to that.

    Chump nor Wine has demonstrated any evidence that IDF targets civilians.

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    The lack off self awareness is awesome Chumpie. That bolded part in particculary.

    If you want to talk about the Hamas War I will respond. Elsewise, there is nothing gained here so I will let you havve a last rant iff it comes to that.

    Chump nor Wine has demonstrated any evidence that IDF targets civilians.


    Straw man.

    U mad.

    Call your therapist and tell her how mean we are to you.

    According to US intelligence assessments seen by CNN, in this war, Israel had dropped more than 29,000 bombs on Gaza since the war began and mid-December, with 40-45% of these unguided.

    These unguided bombs "can miss their target by up to 30m, which is the difference between hitting a Hamas HQ and an apartment packed with civilians", says Mr Garlasco, who has worked on three previous wars in Gaza and is now a military adviser for the Dutch peace organisation PAX.


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67764664

    I don't think anything needs to be intentionally targeted for civilian deaths to be horrific.

    You're fine with them.

    Why?

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    Straw man.

    U mad.

    Call your therapist and tell her how mean we are to you.

    According to US intelligence assessments seen by CNN, in this war, Israel had dropped more than 29,000 bombs on Gaza since the war began and mid-December, with 40-45% of these unguided.

    These unguided bombs "can miss their target by up to 30m, which is the difference between hitting a Hamas HQ and an apartment packed with civilians", says Mr Garlasco, who has worked on three previous wars in Gaza and is now a military adviser for the Dutch peace organisation PAX.


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67764664

    I don't think anything needs to be intentionally targeted for civilian deaths to be horrific.

    You're fine with them.

    Why?
    It's funny you picked up wine's argument but did not even take the time to read what had been discussed.

    I agree that the use of 2000 lbs bombs is problematic. I disagree with the insistence that it is intentionally used on civilians and given the US use of such weapons as well as cluster munitions and napalm and the context of those discussions, it is not quite as cut and dry as you make it seem.

    Talk about strawmen.

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    It's funny you picked up wine's argument but did not even take the time to read what had been discussed.

    I agree that the use of 2000 lbs bombs is problematic. I disagree with the insistence that it is intentionally used on civilians and given the US use of such weapons as well as cluster munitions and napalm and the context of those discussions, it is not quite as cut and dry as you make it seem.

    Talk about strawmen.
    you agree with us and then repeat your straw man

    Someday you might become self-aware.

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    you agree with us and then repeat your straw man

    Someday you might become self-aware.
    And you still have not read the discussion. Wine is claiming genocide. Try and keep up if you are going to claim victory.

    I'm not angry; I'm bored.

    Compare with you using my material and trying dig after dig after dig.

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    Well we can conclude that Chump did not enter the discussion over the merit of the argument. He is making it very clear he has zero idea what Wine and I were arguing about.

    So if that was not why then it increases the possibility that White Knight theory is valid. Throw in him bringing up my therapist and II think we have a winner.

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    And you still have not read the discussion. Wine is claiming genocide. Try and keep up if you are going to claim victory.
    thinking I am Winehole

    I'm not angry; I'm bored.

    Compare with you using my material and trying dig after dig after dig.
    you try dig after dig after dig

    I use your material on you because it fits and because you're the worst hypocrite here, genius.

    Someday you might become self-aware.

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    thinking I am Winehole

    you try dig after dig after dig

    I use your material on you because it fits and because you're the worst hypocrite here, genius.

    Someday you might become self-aware.
    Huh?

    you agree with us and then repeat your straw man
    You were speaking of you and them in terms of us.

    This reactionary stuff is boring again. You have zero merit here once again. Perhaps you can draw me back in with more on topic article, even if extremely obtuse, otherwise last rant is yours.

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    Huh?



    You were speaking of you and them in terms of us.
    About the problematic bombs.

    You still can't help but lie and make your straw man about something I didn't say.

    This reactionary stuff is boring again. You have zero merit here once again. Perhaps you can draw me back in with more on topic article, even if extremely obtuse, otherwise last rant is yours.
    Good.

    You're a coward. You can't answer direct questions and your ego is as large as it is fragile. You're extremely defensive about Israel's actions in this war and that further clouds your already opaque judgment. You are much less intelligent than you try to portray yourself and you're obsessed with Joey of all ing people.

    You agree with US that 2000 lb. dumb bombs in one of the most densely populated areas on earth is "problematic" although you don't really have a problem with the civilian deaths if you were actually going to be honest about it.

    You can't

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    Instructing civilians to go to an area and claiming they will be safe in that area then bombing that area isn't specific targeting, but it is "problematic."

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    About the problematic bombs.

    You still can't help but lie and make your straw man about something I didn't say.

    Good.

    You're a coward. You can't answer direct questions and your ego is as large as it is fragile. You're extremely defensive about Israel's actions in this war and that further clouds your already opaque judgment. You are much less intelligent than you try to portray yourself and you're obsessed with Joey of all ing people.

    You agree with US that 2000 lb. dumb bombs in one of the most densely populated areas on earth is "problematic" although you don't really have a problem with the civilian deaths if you were actually going to be honest about it.

    You can't
    I was arguing with wine. I was taking issue with them using terms like genocide. You came in and clearly had no idea what the argument was about.

    Most recently you said that I agreed with you both. I pointed out Wine's argument and you have been going off with you scarecrow ever since. The virtue signaling has been a nice touch I must say.

    You can go ahead and beat up your strawman if it makes you feel better. Talk about my therapist and Joey too. I can see why you want to throw the selfawareness thing back so bad.

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    Because you aren't self-aware.

    You go back and forth with Joey about therapy for years on a public forum and all the sudden it's off limits for discussion? That's what PMs are for, you nutbag.

    WTF is wrong with you?

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    Because you aren't self-aware.

    You go back and forth with Joey about therapy for years on a public forum and all the sudden it's off limits for discussion? That's what PMs are for, you nutbag.

    WTF is wrong with you?
    who said it was off grounds discussion? you are just missing the point. I explained the dynamics there before and the expectation of people weaponizing it and what that implies. that is why I said go ahead.

    You like to infer things from nothing though. this is fun.

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    I was arguing with wine. I was taking issue with them using terms like genocide. You came in and clearly had no idea what the argument was about.
    Of course I did.

    I had my own question which I asked you directly. You assumed my viewpoint was exactly the same as Winehole's. It simply is not. You're an idiot for thinking so and will continue to be an idiot if you can't accept that not everyone on the board is the same person no matter what your conspiracy theory dictates to you.

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    Of course I did.

    I had my own question which I asked you directly. You assumed my viewpoint was exactly the same as Winehole's. It simply is not. You're an idiot for thinking so and will continue to be an idiot if you can't accept that not everyone on the board is the same person no matter what your conspiracy theory dictates to you.
    The idiocy was you didn't know my position and jumped in anyway, White Knight.

    Spin away though. I want to see here this rant leads.

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    who said it was off grounds discussion? you are just missing the point. I explained the dynamics there before and the expectation of people weaponizing it and what that implies.
    The way you try to weaponize your pop psychology diagnoses in almost every interaction you have?

    WTF is wrong with you?

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    The way you try to weaponize your pop psychology diagnoses in almost every interaction you have?

    WTF is wrong with you?
    What does one have to do with the other?

    You really do not understand the dynamic. I expected people that were afraid of therapy and what it entails would use it against me.

    How is that analogous to my pointing out how your obsessive behavior speaks to OCD?

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    What does one have to do with the other?
    It's the same thing.

    If you didn't feel a stigma about therapy, you wouldn't whine every time we bring it up. The stigma comes from what other people think of you -- in this case it's us.

    It's a dynamic that is easily understood. If it doesn't bother you, you'd simply let it go rather than doing backflips to tell us how it's not bothering you at all that we are making fun of you and your crippling self-importance.

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    I mean, you're going to try to come back and tell us that your ad hominem attacks are somehow special and better than everyone else's.

    It's hilarious.

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    I mean, you're going to try to come back and tell us that your ad hominem attacks are somehow special and better than everyone else's.

    It's hilarious.
    No, I am saying that I do not devolve things down to only personal attacks. Like you have been doing repeatedly as I have pointed out in other tracking of posts.

    You really suck at logic.

    I am glad that you finally made a point so we could figure out you were barking up the wrong tree though. ALthough perhaps I am not sufficiently outraged for your taste.

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    It's the same thing.

    If you didn't feel a stigma about therapy, you wouldn't whine every time we bring it up. The stigma comes from what other people think of you -- in this case it's us.

    It's a dynamic that is easily understood. If it doesn't bother you, you'd simply let it go rather than doing backflips to tell us how it's not bothering you at all that we are making fun of you and your crippling self-importance.
    Yeah both cases make you look bad.

    In the one you are afraid to go to a therapist and in the other you are extremely obsessive. You even get the sllightly confused thoing when you get worked up.

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