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I really want Risacher with one of our picks. Shooting 46.9 % from from three this year. Insane!
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I really want Risacher with one of our picks. Shooting 46.9 % from from three this year. Insane!
Low number of attempts, and his FT % is 71. Could be a mirage.
Nice find CC.
3.1 isn't too bad. We'll see how consistent it is as the season progresses.
I don’t hate him, but shooting wouldn’t be the reason to draft him.
I’m not convinced he’s worthy of a top 3 selection, but if he’s there at 7 it’s a no brainer if TOR lands there.
You speak as if you know Sarr will be plugged in at C. If anything, he’s interchangeable 4/5. Regardless of what you may think of his ceiling, it’s even higher than that.
You speak as if you lack basic reading comprehension. I said Sarr is a C, whether he's slotted at it or playing alongside another one, like Wembanyama was or Duncan often did, etc.
I don't know what Sarr's ceiling is (neither do you or anybody else at this point), I just know Duncan, Wembanyama and to a lesser extent Robinson, were among the GOAT prospects and he's not.
I don't have a problem with Sarr in a vacuum, but the opportunity cost of drafting a non elite shooting big while you could be drafting either an initiator or lower friction wings that fit is way too high. I'm honestly still not sold on him, but even if I were the gap between him and everyone else in the supposed top 5 is not enough to make me want to draft him given his overlap with Wemby.
Oh look, a condescending piece of who can’t have a civil conversation without sarcastic insults. For one, you’re incorrect. He’s actually listed as a F, so that’s where he’ll be slotted. Also, stop mentioning Duncan and Robinson as they have literally no bearing on this convo. PATFO will draft BPA and it’s highly likely he’ll be that, whether your little measly brain is ready to admit it or not.
The biggest problems on our roster are guard and wings. If we can get a good guard and wing I'll be happy.
At being both genuinely mad and ignorant enough to not realize that I respond in kind.
Nah, I'm correct. I could care less about some typical foolish listing. His shot is mostly theoretical and his overall ball skills are promising . . . for a C. Play him next to another one and good luck having a functional offense.
I mention them because negative overlap is irrelevant or can be overcome with all time talent, something he doesn't possess.
They'll draft a non C who fits their narrow minded definition of what a Spur "should" be.
For me my top two players are MR. Praying Mantis and Nikoa Topic - My second tier for us would be Cody Williams, Castle, Risacher, Rob, Tidjane Salaun, and Reed
Last edited by BackHome; 12-24-2023 at 12:39 AM.
1A - PG Nikola Topic - Serbia
I love his size, his playmaking, rebounding, finishing at the rim, and ball IQ. He will struggle on D when he gets to the league, but all we need him to be is adequate on that end.
1B - SF Ryan Dunn - Virginia -
has a great future as a 3 and D player. He has very nice size for a SF. He should definitely help us defensively and on the glass. Plus, Virginia's style of play is conducive to how the Spurs like to play.
2A - F/C PJ Hall - Clemson
When I look at him, physically he resembles Kevin McHale. Now, I am not saying he has McHale's game, but definitely his look. He is a very good shot blocker, an inside presence scoring and on the glass. He is also a decent 3pt shooter.
2B - G/F Dillon Jones -Weber St.
good size. He is basically a double double guy, points and rebounds. He also a solid facilitator of the ball. Jones has sticky hands, almost 2 steals a game. He is great at the FT line, but needs some work beyond the arc.
It’s easy to tell now what a C is in this league. Not sure why people continue to think any stiff looking big like Sarr can play PF. He could be a John Collins at best who doesnt even play the position optimally and is ill suited for a team with championship aspirations. Power forwards are super agile these days. Like, can move on the court like your wings. Sarr wont be able to do that full time. This is the same exact thing when people were thinking Wemby would be a perimeter defender and hold it just fine. Those dreams died fast. So much for his length covering the blown coverage. Turns out that wasnt realistic.
Nah, I'm correct. I could care less about some typical foolish listing. His shot is mostly theoretical and his overall ball skills are promising . . . for a C. Play him next to another one and good luck having a functional offense.
I mention them because negative overlap is irrelevant or can be overcome with all time talent, something he doesn't possess.
They'll draft a non C who fits their narrow minded definition of what a Spur "should" be.
if we are looking at the forwards, risacher isnt in the same tier as buzelis tbh
Dunn doesnt have the 3 point shot to be called a 3&D guy. is also a lousy free throw shooter. his defense is pretty nuts though
I don't really know a whole lot about most of these prospects. With Wemby in place, I'm using my high draft pick on high priority archetypes: primary initiators and two way wings. Currently:
1. Nikola Topic
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=303062
See above; not too much more needs to be said here
2. Zaccharie Risacher
I was previously more down on Risacher, but when you go through his numbers and archetype, he becomes a lot more attractive. At 6'9" with a 6'11" wingspan, he's approximately the same size as a guy like Paul George and reminisces a lot of Brandon Miller last year. Much like Topic's value will hinge on whether his rim pressure translates, Risacher's value will hinge on whether his shot is real. His current most obvious comp is Nic Batum, who was slightly shorter but also slightly longer and similarly played Jeep Elite as a teenager.
Risacher (age 18, Jeep Elite/Eurocup): 18.2 PER, 2.4 Steal %, 8 AST%, 15 TO%, 10.7 TRB%, 48% on 4.9 3s per 36, 71% FT
Batum (age 18, Jeep Elitę): 13.3 PER, 2.3 Steal %, 12.7 AST%, 20.1 TO%, 10.9 TRB%, 27% on 3.2 3s per 36, 65% FT
Batum probably goes top 10 in a redraft of 2008 and went onto have a pretty good career as one of the premier 3 and D guys in the league and Risacher realistically projects as a better version of Batum. If you truly buy the shot, you're now looking at comps like a bigger Klay Thompson, arguably the greatest 3 and D player in NBA history and who goes top 3-4 in a 2011 redraft. If you think he has some secondary creation upside on top of that (which I don't see and the numbers don't support, but isn't completely out of the realm of possibility given his youth), you're now getting into Paul George territory who clearly goes #1 in a 2010 re-draft. In any case, height, shooting, and youth are a pretty lethal combination and Risacher has shown enough defensive chops to make his floor at minimum a valuable 3 and D wing that slides into literally any lineup, while his ceiling much higher than that.
There is a pretty big gap for me after this mostly because I don't know what to make of the G league ignite guys.
3. Reed Sheppard
This take is probably going to age like milk in a couple years. Sheppard is 6'3" and not really a true point guard. He has a great AST:TO but isn't a true advantage creator as his passes are all hit aheads or smart reads. He has godlike shooting percentages and is known for being in the right position while doing the little things that help you win. He's a good defender for his size but not necessarily a true lockdown guy. Honestly, this sounds another guy from a couple years ago who wasn't technically an advantage creator, but would play as a weird super-connector, was a smart player, and had godly college numbers:
Reed Sheppard: 76% TS, 2.8 AST:TO, 5.7 ST%, 9.3% TRB on 17.5% USG
Lonzo Ball: 67% TS, 3.0 AST:TO, 2.8% ST%, 9.6% TRB on 18.1% USG
Lonzo was way bigger and longer, but if not for injuries probably would have developed into a super role-player that every team in the league would have wanted to have. Reed is smaller with less length so he's probably going to be more easily hunted on the defensive end, but his 3 point shot is much more likely to translate (89% FT vs 67%). Additionally, he's solidly built with good instincts so he's more likely to hold up under pressure compared to a slighter guy like Dillingham. He's almost like inverse-Cason Wallace, who has less offensive potential but is more switchable and is much better at the point of attack; both are guys who are perfect for your team either as a 6th man or a 5th starter when you already have a big initiator in place. If we draft Topic with our first pick, Reed slots in as the ideal super 6th man who can play next to either Topic off ball or Vassell on ball for the next 15 years.
Haven't dug in enough on the other guys, really interested to see how Dunn does the rest of the year
Zaccharie is not anywhere near as fluid as Batum or the lanky playmaking wing archetype. What’s concerning about him is that there’s no physicality to speak of and his shot profile consists mostly of spot up 3’s or step back 3’s. Why do we want another player who chucks it up and whose game is predicated on hot or cold shooting? This looks like another player who is at his best when taking 2-3 dribbles max and cant do anything more than a straight line drive.
Last edited by Dejounte; 12-26-2023 at 10:27 PM.
SG Kevin McCullar - Kansas
Does anyone like this kid? I do not watch college basketball as much as I used to, and I usually only watch Texas when I do. Apparently, he is from Wagner HS.
He is a much older prospect, but looks like he already has polish to his game. He is a late first rounder in all the mocks I have seen.
If drafted, he would be the 3rd player from Wagner to make it to the NBA.
if the 3 point shot is real... he's definitely worth the toronto pick tbh, if he even falls that far.
he has a high, quick release, and has shown this year that he doesnt have to bring the ball down before going up with his shot in catch and shoot situations. with his size and release he could be a nasty spacing weapon on offense that we frankly havent had at that position since what, bertans? but he's much more fluid than bertans (injuries contributed to this), and is a good defender. sure he's not going to be an offensive hub (or at least doesnt project to be), but he has shown he can effectively attack closeouts. if wemby becomes who we think he will, and we land a point guard alongside vassell, this kind of is a piece we'd need
Meh, the roster can be full of 50% 3p McDermott types like Zaccharie and the offense is still going to be ugly. I really don’t care for 1 dimensional players at this point. This team needs a lot more. Like I said before, they have to draft someone who projects to be a max player. Aiming for a maybe-better-than-Bertans type is aiming really low.
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