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When I wanted Herro everyone talked about his poor contract now we have one with Vassell lol
What an awful ing contract, wow. This dude is just another low IQ hero baller who doesn’t defend.
When I wanted Herro everyone talked about his poor contract now we have one with Vassell lol
Wasn't he drafted because of his ability to be a 3 and D player? Wtf happened to his D?
He chunks up 3s and doesn't attack the basket like he needs to be doing. And his D is non-existent at times. Getting close to being done with him like I am with Keldon.
Keldon has good skills in different ways but low bbiq. Vassell in contrast seemed like a hard worker who honed his offensive skills, and his technique is way better now, but looks like a limited player if his shot isn't falling. But then again, the positive team morale of last year looks gone and this has to affect their performance. Pop typically was able to keep the troops happy but I don't sense any of that. It's like the team is just as flabbergasted at how bad they are as the fans. So much momentum and positive energy that has evaporated. Even if tanking is a good strategy, ruining team chemistry is not. It's hard for anyone to defend Pop right now because he's passively existing while the team gets killed.
I think DV might be the only player worth a damn (outside Wemby) on the current roster that may stick around when the Spurs are compe ive again. I get how annoying his offensive inconsistency is and how he has the tools to be at least good perimeter defender in the league but just hasn't "got it" yet.
While I agree with all of this, I’ll add that everything about Devin exudes a player who believes he is an alpha, when the reality is he’s just one of the few guys on a terrible team with NBA skills, which that alone does not make an alpha in this league. I don’t see anything resembling leadership out of him, and neither the effort or execution are there on the defensive end.
There was a decent amount of debate this summer on Devin vs. Herro. In turns out, their on-court performance is pretty similar, they both miss games, they both have similar contracts. The differences, from my POV:
- Devin thinks he is the star of the team whereas Herro recognizes that he’s the third option
- Devin is being developed in a culture of losing, whereas Herro has developed in a winning one
- You add those two together, and you have Devin - who plays like his only purpose is to pad his stats - compared to Herro, who plays like his purpose is to help the team win.
Who knows if we ever could have participated in a Lillard to Miami deal that landed us Herro and cost us Devin… but if we did, we should have done that.
Vassell is laughing all the way to the bank. He's stinking it up this year.
Lonnie Walker is like "da ?" He can chuck bad shots and not defend as much as Vassell this year, and he's fighting for his meals at this point in his career.
Hero is proving to be worth the money and has improved in almost every category this year. Vassell has regressed and is worse in almost every category this year.
Hero can and will have his roll reduce as the playoffs get deeper. Vassell game archetype technically stays the same.
146 million and he can't afford a decent hairdresser. That mop is hideous
Should have drafted Haliburton. There isn't a single thing Devin does better on a basketball court. Even his defense is overrated
theres only 1 hero....
he cant take that le from enrique
The Spurs still had DJM and DW when the 2021 draft took place. Halliburton would have been drafting another point. That made no sense.......
I find it weird that Derrick White can stay on the count now unlike his 4 + years in San Antonio.
It doesn't make any sense to put Vassell in the same class as Johnson defensively and I hate when Spurstalk paints with such a broad brush. The defensive failures of this team just are not Vassell's fault. He holds his man to 46.1% shooting, good for top ~40% or so in the league. Outside of Pop, this team's defensive failures rest largely on Johnson (52%), Branham (57.4% JFC), Sochan (50.1%), Osman (51.7%), and Collins (51%). Sochan's 50.1% is already around the bottom third of the league. Branham might be the worst starter I can ever recall on this team.
Where's the broad brush? I was among his biggest fans before and after he was drafted. However, what I've seen from him this year is a troubling decline in effort which is why I said his defensive effort was "non-existent at times."
He deserves to be compared to Keldon on the whole because although his defense is obviously better when engaged he is increasingly unreliable as a on ball defender.
I was among the few here saying it was easily worth a first to get Herro
herro/Vassell backcourt would be somethin
^ they sure as look hard. Hoping he learns how to draw contact and to the line as his next development goal.
Devin is a deep playoff guy for a while now.
He has to work awfully hard to get buckets ... what happens? of course you try to catch your breath on D ...
He's better than a lot of people here think. He's just getting used to getting to his spots and creating shots for himself, he'll only get better at it. Before he was more of an catch-and-shoot guy, which means once we get a real PG he will really shine and his efficiency will go through the roof since he's pretty efficient at making tough shots already. Defensively his strength has always been more team defense than individual D, so again it will look much better when he's surrounded with a better supporting cast.
My only beef with him is that he doesn’t draw enough fouls for his playing style. A guy like him should be at the line 5 or 6 times a night consistently.
I keep thinking we should sell high...
He'd be deadly fo a contender with a limited role
He's not Wemby compatible imo, poor court vision and passing won't change like that and we can get A LOT for him + picks
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