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You started out with the personal attacks instead of answering my direct question ITT. Since you could only lie about my actual position on this subject, personal attacks are all you have left. You started out sufficiently outraged to destroy any actual argument you might have had.
You do precisely what you claim to not do.
WTF is wrong with you?
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I think the "genocide" angle is counter-productive here. Are they asking for International powers to step back in and get involved?
Counter-productive for whom? Who is they?
You're barely making sense with the indefinite reference.
1% of Gaza has been killed in 2.5 months. 2-3% has been injured and maimed.
80% of the population has been displaced from their homes. Most of them have no homes to return to -- the buildings been utterly destroyed.
Hospitals, schools, churches, mosques, libraries, ambulances, bakeries, UN warehouses, universities, productive agricultural land and civil facilities have been bombed.
Water, food, fuel and communications have been cut off. The whole territory faces incipient famine. Civilians are not allowed to leave.
I don't think the genocide/ethnic cleansing is being overemphasized at all.
Last edited by Winehole23; 12-24-2023 at 05:29 AM.
One percent of US population is a little over 3 million people.
2-3 percent is ~6-10 million people.
80% is ~ 250 million people.
Proportionally, that's already happened to Gaza in 2-3 months.
Comparable destruction, displacement and death in Israel outside the occupied territories would be a no-brainer genocide, why doesn't the reverse hold?
Does never again not mean never again?
Years ago, I interviewed Ehud Barak and asked him, "What would happen if you were born Palestinian?" I asked. He gave me the only honest answer he could give: "I would join a terrorist organization."
Only to Trump making President ever again, and that thing with Annie Frankie, uh, uh, uh, yeah, The Holocaust.
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2...ian-ocean.htmlJapan-owned tanker attacked by drone fired from Iran in Indian Ocean
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The tanker, which was carrying 20 Indians and one Vietnamese, had left Saudi Arabia on Tuesday and was heading to Mangalore, southwestern India, according to the U.S. Defense Department and the Indian Coast Guard.
But the vessel decided to head to Mumbai for repairs and to have the damage assessed with the assistance of the Indian Coast Guard.
The incident came amid a series of attacks on ships in the Red Sea since the start of the war between Israel and the Palestinian militant group Hamas, which began on Oct. 7.
War is awful. Put Israel on the list of another military pimped to be better than USA and exposed.1% of Gaza has been killed in 2.5 months. 2-3% has been injured and maimed.
80% of the population has been displaced from their homes. Most of them have no homes to return to -- the buildings been utterly destroyed.
Hospitals, schools, churches, mosques, libraries, ambulances, bakeries, UN warehouses, universities, productive agricultural land and civil facilities have been bombed.
Water, food, fuel and communications have been cut off. The whole territory faces incipient famine. Civilians are not allowed to leave.
I don't think the genocide/ethnic cleansing is being overemphasized at all.
The tactics might very well be genocidal but results differ:
"The U.S. Census Bureau International Database data estimates that Gaza's Palestinian population increased from only 265,800 in 1960 to 342,700 in 1970, 431,600 in 1980, 645,100 in 1990, 1,1 million in 2000, 1.5 million in 2010, and 2.1 million in 2023 and that it will rise to 2.4 million, 2.9 million in 2040"
West & Arabs should play friend but ultimately Palestinians & Israeli's need to find a way to co-exist. Or else outsiders will rejoin the party to dictate and I think Palestine will be the biggest loser.
Jews are driven & territorial but they know their happiness is directly tied to the well being of their neighbor. As I told my Jewish buddy - the West is weakening, getting poorer, fractured. There will come a time we can't financially support Israel. They need to continue creating allies in the region and stop being a Western colony in the Arab world. I believe in the Jews. I think they can be the bigger man.
This is all you needed to say. The rest can be extrapolated.
I will say that if the balance of power resided with Palestine, Israel would cease to exist not only as a country but the Jews there would be exterminated sans mercy. The Arab countries, especially the poorer ones, historically lacked the internal wherewithal to develop at the pace of Israel. Having powerful allies, both militarily and technologically benefits the state of Israel more than can be easily stated.
Much of Israeli leadership has direct ties to Europe. Netanyahu's father born in Warsaw. Kinda unfair.
Israel is on the West ty BUT they have performed great on the battlefield in relative even odds in the past. There is no reason Palestine also can't be on the West ty. We are a damn money printer.
I wouldn't say this publicly but I'm not gonna apologize for siding with a Western ally. We should discuss their behavior but they are one of us.
Polaks were in similiar position as Palestine. We decided our history is richer than the 20th Century and we took our neighbors hand offering partnership. Yes we were the ugly cousin and we did their lower class jobs but we remained focused on the future. Today we are healthy allies that prosper together.
Because most people do not consider a 1% decline in population to be genocide. It might help you if you looked at historical genocides and look to see what happened. So for example with the Cambodians, the Jews or the Armenians.
What is cartoonish is your daily outrage porn in a quest for genocide..
Last edited by FuzzyLumpkins; 12-24-2023 at 12:49 PM.
It does not matter till CNN, at the direction of the State Dept. says so.
The West is the great Satan, no self respecting Palestinian leader would snuggle up with a nation founded on Christianity/Deism.
It's quite obvious few if any of the Arab nations care for Israel, but they also don't like each other very much so there's not enough synergy there to collectively do anything about it.
Sure, absolutely, till you get a ganders at those $100 bills stacked on pallets in the back of a C-135 cargo plane out of D.C.,,"Hey, we didn't bring a forklift with us, that wasn't part of the deal. You got one, or, do we taxi back out, huh, chief?"
what Israel has been doing for months is outrage porn for the domestic audience. that's an observation, not a quest, unless your eyes and your heart are closed to it imho.
BTW, Fuzzy, what's your bespoke definition for genocide? The conventional ones do not require that a certain percentage of people in a territory be killed.
One percent of a population getting killed in 2-3 months is no joke.Especially when so many of them are children.
(About one-third so far, according to reported estimates, iirc.The incipient famine and disease could put that number in the shade, if Israel doesn't relent soon. Dedicated minimizers will probably categorize those as "natural deaths.")
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