Pictures / Videos of Missed Wemby Lobs

[Pauleta14]

Sochan tweeted ""

[Seventyniner]

At this point memes and narratives are greatly crowding out reality.

Of course Youtube creators and such are going to go with the "omg Wemby's teammates are freezing him out" narrative because it is trendy and gets clicks/views. I can't be certain why the same at ude is catching on here, I guess this place is more of an echo chamber than I realized.

When you dig into the actual numbers, they prove that Wemby is not being frozen out, that his usage rate is far ahead of all his teammates (along with being up there in the league rankings), and that he is very inefficient on offense (at least some of which is his own fault).

[james evans]

When he asks to be traded, I don't want you guys that tried to on Kawhi and Murray to say a goddamn thing

[itzsoweezee]

At this point memes and narratives are greatly crowding out reality.

Of course Youtube creators and such are going to go with the "omg Wemby's teammates are freezing him out" narrative because it is trendy and gets clicks/views. I can't be certain why the same at ude is catching on here, I guess this place is more of an echo chamber than I realized.

When you dig into the actual numbers, they prove that Wemby is not being frozen out, that his usage rate is far ahead of all his teammates (along with being up there in the league rankings), and that he is very inefficient on offense (at least some of which is his own fault).

Actually watch the games bro. Not all touches are created equal. Wemby gets very low quality touches from his teammates and easy scoring opportunities are constantly passed up

[SupremeGuy]

At this point memes and narratives are greatly crowding out reality.

Of course Youtube creators and such are going to go with the "omg Wemby's teammates are freezing him out" narrative because it is trendy and gets clicks/views. I can't be certain why the same at ude is catching on here, I guess this place is more of an echo chamber than I realized.

When you dig into the actual numbers, they prove that Wemby is not being frozen out, that his usage rate is far ahead of all his teammates (along with being up there in the league rankings), and that he is very inefficient on offense (at least some of which is his own fault).

[Extra Stout]

I guess I should have known that there were moles from the Spurs’ front office in this forum.

[baseline bum]

Something I don't want either, is for the locker room to turn against Wenby. Force feeding him just to make it all a show.

It sucks. It doesn't feel like they've played like a team since their first few games.

I don't care if the locker room gets jealous. They can all ing go, only Vassell is good enough to possibly even want on this team in 3 years when Vic is hitting his prime.

[SayNoToDrugsTBH]

Sochan tweeted ""

[Jordan Jackson]

Actually watch the games bro. Not all touches are created equal. Wemby gets very low quality touches from his teammates and easy scoring opportunities are constantly passed up

correct. People keep leaning on “Usage Rate” - it’s misleading. I think “Player Touches” stats are telling the true story or gives better insight.

Now. I don’t believe they are freezing Wemby. They are just really poor passers and in some cases players overall.

[Obstructed_View]

At this point memes and narratives are greatly crowding out reality.

Of course Youtube creators and such are going to go with the "omg Wemby's teammates are freezing him out" narrative because it is trendy and gets clicks/views. I can't be certain why the same at ude is catching on here, I guess this place is more of an echo chamber than I realized.

When you dig into the actual numbers, they prove that Wemby is not being frozen out, that his usage rate is far ahead of all his teammates (along with being up there in the league rankings), and that he is very inefficient on offense (at least some of which is his own fault).

I'm certain I used the term "freezing out" to describe what the team is doing long before the echo chamber formed, scro.

[Obstructed_View]

Actually watch the games bro. Not all touches are created equal. Wemby gets very low quality touches from his teammates and easy scoring opportunities are constantly passed up

The quality of his attempts has taken a ing nosedive in December. His catch and shoot attempts are near zero.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

This whole roster needs to be turned over. Wemby needs real help out there.

[eric365]

At this point memes and narratives are greatly crowding out reality.

Of course Youtube creators and such are going to go with the "omg Wemby's teammates are freezing him out" narrative because it is trendy and gets clicks/views. I can't be certain why the same at ude is catching on here, I guess this place is more of an echo chamber than I realized.

When you dig into the actual numbers, they prove that Wemby is not being frozen out, that his usage rate is far ahead of all his teammates (along with being up there in the league rankings), and that he is very inefficient on offense (at least some of which is his own fault).

Watch the games

Getting the ball at the 3 points line is not what you expect as quality touch as a big man
You expect your guard to CREATE something that will lead to a pass to the big man near the basket. You also expect good entry pass when the big man has established position near the basket.
And clearly the whole roster is unable to do that except Tre and Vessel at times

Teamates unable to create is a major problem that will need to change them in order to progress
Wemby stopping to jack low percentage 3 pointers is a minor problem easy to fix. He didn’t do that in the french league

[Spurs Homer]

This past summer, did the Spurs even take a shot at

Lillard?
Holliday?
Lowry?
Chrissy paul?


even that moron - cam payne-
was an upgrade over the garbage we have now

Spurs mismanagement

[Seventyniner]

Watch the games

Getting the ball at the 3 points line is not what you expect as quality touch as a big man
You expect your guard to CREATE something that will lead to a pass to the big man near the basket. You also expect good entry pass when the big man has established position near the basket.
And clearly the whole roster is unable to do that except Tre and Vessel at times

Teamates unable to create is a major problem that will need to change them in order to progress
Wemby stopping to jack low percentage 3 pointers is a minor problem easy to fix. He didn’t do that in the french league

I said some of Wemby's inefficiency is his fault, not all.

If Wemby's teammates are unable to get him the ball in good spots that's completely different than them being unwilling to, which is what freezing out is.

[CorrectCrusader]

I said some of Wemby's inefficiency is his fault, not all.

If Wemby's teammates are unable to get him the ball in good spots that's completely different than them being unwilling to, which is what freezing out is.

The point of this thread is showing that his teammates are either the worst ever or unwilling, whichever you choose is damning to the player

[Seventyniner]

The point of this thread is showing that his teammates are either the worst ever or unwilling, whichever you choose is damning to the player

Coming into the season we already knew Wemby's teammates sucked. They went 22-60 last year. I'm just pushing back against the narrative that they are deliberately freezing him out, i.e. refusing to pass him the ball when they otherwise could. The numbers don't support the freezing out narrative at all, and the videos/stills really don't either; it's easy to think Wemby is wide open when you have a bird's eye view and the benefit of pausing time.

[CorrectCrusader]

Coming into the season we already knew Wemby's teammates sucked. They went 22-60 last year. I'm just pushing back against the narrative that they are deliberately freezing him out, i.e. refusing to pass him the ball when they otherwise could. The numbers don't support the freezing out narrative at all, and the videos/stills really don't either; it's easy to think Wemby is wide open when you have a bird's eye view and the benefit of pausing time.

We went 22-60 last year and we're on pace for like 9 wins this year. Lmao

[Tyronn Lue]

It's easy to see that few on the team get "good touches" since so many of the passes are more like fumbles, they are off target, poorly timed or ill conceived. Watching the team play without Victor on the court it's obvious they aren't really good enough to freeze anyone out. It's more likely they are just incompetent.

[Tyronn Lue]

Coming into the season we already knew Wemby's teammates sucked. They went 22-60 last year. I'm just pushing back against the narrative that they are deliberately freezing him out, i.e. refusing to pass him the ball when they otherwise could. The numbers don't support the freezing out narrative at all, and the videos/stills really don't either; it's easy to think Wemby is wide open when you have a bird's eye view and the benefit of pausing time.

I think anyone who regularly watches the game has seen enough passes in transition and over the top lobs to know what's possible. You seem to think people just now got that bird's eye view.

[Seventyniner]

It's easy to see that few on the team get "good touches" since so many of the passes are more like fumbles, they are off target, poorly timed or ill conceived. Watching the team play without Victor on the court it's obvious they aren't really good enough to freeze anyone out. It's more likely they are just incompetent.

That's what I think too. It's a form of Hanlon's Razor: don't assume something is caused by malice when it can be explained just as well by ignorance, or in this case incompetence.

I think anyone who regularly watches the game has seen enough passes in transition and over the top lobs to know what's possible. You seem to think people just now got that bird's eye view.

No, that wasn't my point. I'm saying that it isn't enough for Victor to be open, you also need the man with the ball to both know Victor is open and be able to get the ball to him while he's open. Those last two are not always easy, or even possible, to deduce from the bird's eye view. And as you said above, there's a level of talent and BBIQ those last two things require that are in short supply in the rest of the squad.

[Obstructed_View]

This whole roster needs to be turned over. Wemby needs real help out there.

Disagree. Game planning touches for Victor, benching guys who don't look his way are coaching adjustments.

If everyone can see the problem and the players are doing whatever they want it doesn't matter if they're good or bad, and how would you tell the difference?

[Tyronn Lue]

That's what I think too. It's a form of Hanlon's Razor: don't assume something is caused by malice when it can be explained just as well by ignorance, or in this case incompetence.



No, that wasn't my point. I'm saying that it isn't enough for Victor to be open, you also need the man with the ball to both know Victor is open and be able to get the ball to him while he's open. Those last two are not always easy, or even possible, to deduce from the bird's eye view. And as you said above, there's a level of talent and BBIQ those last two things require that are in short supply in the rest of the squad.

I think the reason people pull their hair out over it is because the guy with the ball doesn't see that Victor is open. I'd like to see if I can throw the ball to Victor in the post. I'm pretty sure I'd get it up there for him to get a pretty decent shot at grabbing it and I'm not even close to Sochan's height or basketball skill level.

[Slippy]

It the offense they running and lack of competent pg that cant shoot hurting the spurs. Trey Jones is their best option but opposition dont respect him on the three. Wemby and to a lesser extent Vassell having to take too many shots out of offense.

Theres been heaps of games where the likes of Collins and Keldon are getting most of the ops out of the offense.


Its falls on Pop.

[spurraider21]

Perfect