Not really. The inferences are: Wemby wants to win, or at least not be historically bad. I think that’s a safe assumption. For your vision to be true, Wemby would have to be on board with the same exact roster that produced a #1 pick, historically bad defense, probable losses of accolades like ROY, DPOY, or all-star nods, and/or blind hope in future high draft picks that quickly produce results. That’s just not plausible.
I agree with you that there are on-going conversations between his team and the spurs. That’s normal. I even think that there was some buy-in on Wembys part to begin the season. But the most plausible sense from Wemby as we sit here in December is, at the very least, doubt as to the FO’s ability to execute on whatever vision they offered him back in the summer.
There it is.
I would have taken a crack at Austin Reaves and Brook Lopez. I’d have made a run at Malcom Brogdon and Robert Williams after the Dame trade. I would have kicked the tires on an OG or even Jakob trade. I’d have brought Patty back, or another end of the bench vet or two.
"I ain't going to speak for nobody but he didn't want to do all the other (expletive) that Pop did too. Like the learning. He just wants to hoop. Everybody don't want to learn what's in Africa. Learn the maps and he just wanted to hoop. I ain't saying that's right or wrong but he just didn't want to do that."
Most cringeworthy thing I’ve heard in a while if true
to be fair, everything LMA said about the spurs was actually quite tame in the interview. he really didnt want to get into the kawhi talk
I get it.
Kawhi didn't want a subs ution dad
I think there's a balance for how stuff like that can fit into a basketball setting, but it's really easy to overshoot it. Not that Kawhi's the best example of being normal, but the Spurs Medium Three roster was unique in the number of "worldly" people on it. He needs to figure out how to connect with the players he has, especially given the team's aversion to retaining locket room vets.
in context what he said was quite tame. he refused to get into any of the real kawhi/spurs feud stuff
Zero surprise.
I didn't realize it was Jack interviewing him. It makes more sense now.
That's the thing... once they got Wemby, things that needed to change, didn't change (the roster), and that's part of the complaint. The things that did change (the coaching) only did so in a way that is even worse than what it was before.
but for the conjecture that i referenced to be true, wemby would have an uncle dennis in the family and/or an agent that would be hasty about the current spurs record. i would doubt that to be the case with Bouna Ndiaye as he has always had a good relation with the spurs FO. if wemby had a rich paul type agent, then maybe i could believe that. we can think whatever we want transpired but it's all conjecture. saying something is more likely doesn't make it so. now, if i start hearing things from wemby that are concerning, then i think it'd be less speculative to make such assertions.
i would have been okay with reeves but all signs pointed to the lakers matching any offer. lopez wasn't going to give up a shot at another le so that he can be a part of a rebuild. i would have had no interest in bogdon or williams. patty would have been a bench coach.
what pop also need to realize is just how bad an optic it can be: a white man teaching Black people about their history.
It's a fact that Victor is the most hyped 1st overall pick since Lebron. It's also a fact that the Spurs have lost more games with him than without him. Those are undisputable facts. As time goes by, if Victor doesn't get the opportunity to showcase his skills and abilities because 4 other no-name players are hamming it up, it's going to affect how the league views him. Already there's little talk about him in sports media other than he's being frozen out by his teammates and seemingly by his coach. You can call that speculation all you want, I really don't care. Most of what's posted here is speculation, and the suggestions are often based on extrapolation from what is known. You're just standing pat with Pop. I get it, but don't pretend lack of communication from Pop other than telling fans to shut the up is room for positive news. The results don't look so positive.
Not necessarily. There are plenty of ways for a star to leave the franchise that drafted him other than having an Uncle Dennis. , Tim basically made up his mind to leave for ORL, and that was after having enjoyed wild success and winning a ring. Players are motivated by winning, legacy, money, endorsements, and a bunch of other stuff beyond a self-aggrandizing family member or agent. And that’s the heart of the matter: the spurs sold a bill of goods to wemby at the start of the season, and results are not only not materializing, but the situation is worsening. Winning matters, and we’re a far, far way off from winning.
I don't think it requires an Uncle Dennis for dissatisfaction to root out of this situation. Wemby is the most touted prospect in 20-years, yet is on pace to be the only "Generational Talent" since the lottery who failed to improve his team (let alone guide them to a franchise worst season). Wemby is a compe or, his statements before the season back that up. Uncle Dennis isn't necessary, Wemby can come to these conclusions himself, just like millions of people around the world do every day when they are unsatisfied with the organizations they work for.
stop moving the goal posts. you seem to be unable to comprehend or just choose to ignore what i actually said you were speculating about. none of these add-ons are anything that i referred to as speculative. i said it was speculative to assume that wemby, his agent, or any fictional family member have any sort of position about where the spurs are at currently. you can extrapolate a terrible season for this year but going on to speculate about how wemby and his team are feeling, or will feel, is just conjecture.
yes, that's all true but has nothing to do with what i was referring to.
I wouldn't think an agent would be as worried about the record as they would be about him not being as involved in the offense as he should be in order to showcase Victor to the NBA viewers. Victor got a lot of talk around the league, every forum of every team probably has a Victor Wembanyama thread, and often their expectations from him are even higher than what you read here. They also know he's not being used to his potential, because 4 scrubs need to eat too. Yes I am considering DV a scrub, compared to the prospect of Victor Wembanyama.
Do you know what the word "likely" means?
I was going to buy my gf a ring for her birthday but I didn't want to speculate she'd expect a gift since I cannot read her mind.
You understand that Silver said that any teams openly tanking for Wemby would be punished, right? He HAS to say that.
‘Possibly’ would be a better term, since you have no idea and are just speculating. You have a personal relationship with your GF, I hope. You do not have one with Wemby,his family, or his team.
one of the best classes i took when i was working on my undergrad degree in philosophy was "Philosophy of Mind". i bring that up because one of the arguments about "other minds" seems to apply here. we're all just subscribing a mental state to wemby that may or may not exist. we're conditioned to believe players will become disgruntled based on what other players have done or said in the past (e.g.. kawhii, KD, giannis, embiid, butler) but until i hear something from wemby, or his camp, that suggests he is pissed about his current situation, i have no reason to assume that he would be disgruntled two months into his career because his vanity couldn't handle being the generational talent that had the worst record after his rookie year just because i think that's what he should be thinking.
So what? You are assuming there’s only 1 path for a player to leave. That’s just not true.
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