Risacher or Dillingham.
I'm on board with Dillingham I think. Super productive off the bench on a loaded Kentucky team. Counting stats would be higher on a less talented team. Shooting has improved and is solid if not really good. Insane handle and wiggle. Great vision and passing this year. Huge improvement in one year. I think I would take Dillingham first then roll player who drops with the likely Toronto pick.
If we have the raptors pick I’d figure out how to make it more likely to land both Dillingham and Risacher based on the teams picking between our two selections
Ja'kobe Walter
Draft Walter and trade for Derrick White back and run the
Walter White "let's cook" lineup
Dillingham looks small.
This draft looks weak. We still have to pick someone. He could still be solid.
If the Spurs get the #1 pick I hope that they trade it.
if Toronto conveys and the Spurs have 2 picks between #2 and #12 or so I’d be happy with 2 of the following:
Topic
Walter
Risacher
Williams
Sheppard
Dillingham
Castle (He’s been rusty after injury but assuming he improves)
I’m not a fan of Sarr, Holland, and Buzelis but that could change with time.
For me it's:
Topic
Buzelis
Williams
Risacher
Sheppard
Tidjane
Castle
Tapping in now that we're entering conference play and are getting more games for everyone. We'll start seeing lots of movement in mock before we see accelerated movement during draft season.
It's hard to get a grasp on any of this anymore. Players are drafted well before they're ready to contribute and then older draftees are able to chip in. A rookie might pan out and then regress as teams figure them out. As everyone says, this seems like a poor draft by reputation. Seems closer to 2020 when we were trying to convince ourselves that James Wiseman wasn't going to bust. Most of that lottery was a wasteland, but then 2023 hasn't exactly been off the charts other than Wembanyama -- but then again it's just been a partial season.
Hard to project anything at this point, but:
Isaiah Collier, Alexandre Sarr. Collier seems like a complete no-go at this point, a guy who got hyped on physical attributes who may be drafted way too high on reputation. As for Sarr, I'm wary of drafting a center this high who is not Victor Wembanyama. Right now I'm puzzled why he's projected so high.
Ron Holland, Ja'Kobe Walter. Haven't watched them, but uncertain. By now I think we're learning that going G-League may be a bad idea for young players. It simply doesn't teach them much. Walter has a reputation for being tunnel vision, but I want to watch him play.
Zach Risacher, Matas Buzelis. I'm uncertain about Risacher. Would like to see extended production. Would be great if he was more of a defender. Buzelis has sort of become an afterthought and G-League might have been a terrible choice, but he's intriguing
Nikola Topic. Stephon Castle, Dillingham, Sheppard I mean, Topic is the real attraction right now. With real weaknesses, but a couple superior skills (passing, rim pressure). I look forward to watching Castle. Also want to watch more Kentucky with their raft of undersized guards.
Guys like Bub Carrington. These are the types who could really rise. No one at Pittburgh (equivalent) is going to get much attention, so there's always potential value.
Last year, players like Walker and Hendricks might have been drafted too high. We'll see about the Thompsons, etc. We saw an Anthony Black torpedo up the draft while Nick Smith Jr. plummeted. I do think this one's more like 2020 where there''s a lot of disaster in the top 10-12 picks. Hope we can do alright.
One thing is for sure I don't think any of these guys we are looking at should be starting and getting major minutes next year. They all need to spend time in G League, the team with the best coaches and trainers who can help players will play a big roll on who is a bust and who is a future star.
Would anyone on this site be even marginally comfortable with Brian Wright have any significant input on future draft picks? He obviously gets zero points for 2023. It seems like many of these guys don't show the appropriate level of effort and intensity. The 2022 draft is starting to look like a bunch of end of the bench guys for a compe ive team. The 2021 draft was a complete disaster - a lack of due diligence by the front office to draft a guy who had some personal issues that should have disqualified ANY consideration as a first round draft pick. Vassell is a guy who can be a starter/contributor. Wright also had input on the 2018 and 2019 drafts (I think - definitely 2019). Lonnie Walker, Sammich, and Keldon Johnson - a journeyman, a total bust, and a decent bench rotation player.
I guess there was a reason why the Spurs sucked last year and this year. Not enough talent, effort, and heart. The Celtics are very possibly the best team in the NBA, but that was a disgusting, embarrassing display of basketball tonight by San Antonio. The Spurs squad was being laughed at by the opposition - the Celtics were running around like it was a practice session they way they cut up SA's defense. Yes, two of the Spurs top seven players were out, but geeez. That sleepwalking display was shameful - at least the guys on the floor could act like they actually want to play in the NBA - Wemby of course is not being referenced here. The rest of them should be roundly criticized.
At this rate, the Spurs might (MIGHT) win a couple of games the next couple of months. January looks like an a possible zero and whatever. They will probably lose to the Pistons, especially if the game is in Detroit. Just think, the Spurs and Pistons were the two best teams and basketball twenty years ago.
Last edited by Harry Callahan; 12-31-2023 at 09:27 PM.
Goddamn you guys just need to shoot yourselves in the head.
Stating my opinion - kiss my a@@ M Body. Opinions are the purpose of forums right?
Who’s got this latest mock from Givony?
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/ins...ilipowski-leap
Did Mr Body really wait for the win against Portland to come back and start posting?
espn insider is only in the usa. With a proxy, it should work:
https://nl.hideproxy.me/go.php?u=swT...&b=5&f=norefer
It isn't a mock draft but some random thoughts. His mock is available there:
https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/besta..._/position/ovr
3 french players in the top 6.
Salaun is climbing the boards actually, one thing is sure about this guy he's a hard worker.
Wow, first I’ve seen Holland this low and Matas not in the top 9. Also the highest I’ve seen Dillingham, and above Collier to boot. And how is this Salaun guy, this year’s Bilal?
Yeah Matas is falling because of his 3 point shooting is not good which is funny because that what he was known for in High School. If he can correct that he will move up if not he will probably be a mid first pick.
I will give ButtsR.. for putting me on Salaun - I watched some games and and the thing I like is he plays with a little edge he is passionate and I like that and think we need more of those type of players. One thing on a lot of mocks you see him either as a SF or a PF. To me he is a pure PF and he looks like he has grown I would say he is a legit 6’10. The things I would like to see him work on is his rebounding the other thing he might be the youngest player in this draft so he definitely has room to improve.
Another kid I think will be moving up just on potential is Tyler Smith
Last edited by BackHome; 01-02-2024 at 12:42 PM.
significantly different draft board than from a few months back
And still with the trademark humility and easy going at ude that we've come to expect.Did Mr Body really wait for the win against Portland to come back and start posting?
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