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    Goddamn you guys just need to shoot yourselves in the head.
    What an unhinged response. Seek help

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    Salaun is climbing the boards actually, one thing is sure about this guy he's a hard worker.
    if this guy can rebound and play d....go for it

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    Zaccharie Risacher is a fraud, believe me, he's just surfing on the hype for French mens. Spurs must not go all in to draft him.

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    If Salaun's rise lasts, he'll automatically be in the mix as a double whammy (bi-racial and European), although he might be too long and athletic for their taste.

    Still, the former means they'll foist all of their usual stereotypes/boxes checked upon him and prioritize that nonsense before whether he projects as a positive impact player.

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    Interesting tidbits from the Givony post previously linked:

    Topic goes from Mega MIS, one of the fastest-paced teams in the Adriatic League -- which afforded him unlimited freedom to push in the open court and probe outside of the confines of the offense -- to a Red Star team ranked last in pace, where he'll surely be asked to play a different style.
    Topic's 18.5 pick-and-roll possessions used per game ranked No. 1 in the Adriatic League by a wide margin, and he's also top five in the league in isolation and transition possessions. He'll likely be asked to do more with less, playing behind and alongside Teodosic, a legend of European basketball who excels operating in pick and roll.
    "Basketball is a game of decisions," Topic said. "It's a mental game. Using angles. The player that makes a faster decision, that person will win. The EuroLeague is a mind game. It's a game of reads."
    Two areas where Red Star will likely help Topic's development are defensively and as a perimeter shooter. Playing 34 minutes per game in an outsized role offensively, Topic has had a fair share of lackadaisical moments defensively, especially off the ball, something that will not fly under the defensive-minded Sfairopoulos.
    With better talent surrounding him on a team that shoots more 3s per possession than anyone in the EuroLeague, Topic (29% from 3) should get more opportunities to step into catch-and-shoot jumpers than he did at Mega MIS. He'll also be asked to make very different types of reads than in the Adriatic league, where teams aggressively trapped him in ball screens to try to get the ball out of his hands and force others to beat them. He'll likely see more drop and switching coverages in the EuroLeague, more similar to what he'll face in the NBA. He'll enjoy significantly less practice time, also with considerably more travel and games.
    With 11 games on the January schedule between the EuroLeague and Adriatic League, Topic will need to hit the ground running for Red Star compared with his previous weekly slate at Mega.
    It's not clear what Topic's pre-draft process will look like, as he will likely see his season extend into late May, with the possibility of playing in the Serbian league in June, which might make it challenging for him to conduct private workouts with teams. If Topic excels for Red Star, that likely won't matter that much ultimately, as he could build a strong case for consideration as a top-three pick or even possibly the No. 1 selection depending on how the rest of the class shapes up.

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    matas is bad.....yall dont mention him in the top 10 pick again....like i said another
    bertans....pass on him

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    I like Clark out of Iowa. PG problems solved.

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    Perfect draft for me would be Rob Dillingham and Ryan Dunn. Rob has star written all over him, clear as day. His defense is suspect but I think it’s something you’re going to have to live with as most elite PG’s don’t defend for either. Dunn on the other hand is someone that’s an All-Defense player day 1. He can’t shoot for just like the other bums on our team but at least he’s a gigantic positive defensively. Both complement Victor and would start right away over those ing bums Branham and Champagnie.

    Wemby
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    Dillingham

    Collins
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    Two All defensive players in that starting lineup and two guys that COULD be above average defensively if they were to give a . Shooting may be a problem but it should be alright if Wemby can bring that 3p% up to at least a 32-34, and Jeremy keeps up the improvement he’s shown this season.

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    Goddamn you guys just need to shoot yourselves in the head.
    Seek therapy. It’s better than your takes on here.

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    Zaccharie Risacher is a fraud, believe me, he's just surfing on the hype for French mens. Spurs must not go all in to draft him.
    Do you see him play in the regular?

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    Cody, Topic, JaKobe prob my top 3 favorite guys overall so far

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    Cody, Topic, JaKobe prob my top 3 favorite guys overall so far
    Yeah, right now I think that would be my top 3 - Cody gives you a guy an athletic tall defender who has a lot of upside on offense a possible future starting SF on a playoff team - Topic gives you a floor General, and JaKobe probably has the highest floor as what he does can easily carry over to NBA and this is an offensive league.

    I am not high on Dunn as he is a terrible offensive player - his 3 ball % is .190 and he hits the free throw rate at .614 - I hate saying that cause I love great Defenders, but it is what it is "The New NBA" and yeah I am tired of watching Branham and some other players.

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    im not saying you want a team full of brent formses but offensive skill and the ability to get off 3 point shots with a quick release is so much more valuable right now than individual defensive prowess. a competent coach would scheme defense a lot better to make sure players get help where needed. we already have an all-world anchor which makes that a lot easier, too.

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    Bottom line is that if the only thing we do this offseason is add two top-10 picks, then we're going to be terrible against next season. If that happens:


    • Some folks on this board will be okay (or even happy with that). Some of those will be because they want another tank season, others because they like seeing Pop fail.
    • Some folks who have come on record and said the tanking should stop after this season will suddenly change their tunes and tell us CIAPop is a genius.
    • Some folks will continue to criticize this team for a lack of direction.


    Despite how fun the content of this message board will be, for the reasons above I hope this is not what happens this offseason.

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    Bottom line is that if the only thing we do this offseason is add two top-10 picks, then we're going to be terrible against next season. If that happens:


    • Some folks on this board will be okay (or even happy with that). Some of those will be because they want another tank season, others because they like seeing Pop fail.
    • Some folks who have come on record and said the tanking should stop after this season will suddenly change their tunes and tell us CIAPop is a genius.
    • Some folks will continue to criticize this team for a lack of direction.


    Despite how fun the content of this message board will be, for the reasons above I hope this is not what happens this offseason.
    We need to fill gaps with veterans who are at least solid. Can't be another bottom feeder next year, we need to at least be fighting for the play in come april.

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    If we go based off this list, then I think we should go after Markelle Fultz, Batum, and an Andre Drummond, these type players to fill out the roster. I think Batum would be a great presence for Victor, fellow frenchman and all.

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    The only way that happens if Spurs make trade or pays for free agents and I just don't see that happening. I was hoping that we could have signed IQ. after this season as he is a free agent but it looks like the Raptors beat us so not seeing any good players I would want. I seriously think that we will be just as bad the following year because I don't see our pick making a big impact there first year with us.

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    Serious question for all the posters screaming at the front office for picking Haliburton over Vassell in 2020:

    Do you go ahead and pick Reed Sheppard with a top 5 pick in this draft? The scouting report for Haliburton out of Iowa state was that he'd be good as a secondary creator, sort of like a lonzo ball. He had significant questions about his ability to generate baskets in isolation, exert any kind of rim pressure, and had limited athleticism. He had a thin frame so there were also questions about his ability to hold up on defense.

    Now you've got a guy in Sheppard who's shooting ridiculous percentages from all three levels, has a high AST:TO, and projects as a secondary creator with good shooting at the next level. He also is putting up historic college numbers but has questions about his ability to generate baskets in isolation or exert any kind of rim pressure. He's short and has short arms so there are questions about his ability to hold up on defense even though he has outstanding steal and block percentages. He's also a year younger than Haliburton was at Iowa State when he came out. He's also a kentucky guard so he's probably way better than what he's shown.

    I don't honestly think Sheppard is going to be a star or anything, but for posters who could clearly see what a mistake taking Vassell was in 2020, how is this different from a Haliburton situation in 2020?

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    Honestly, if Shepard keeps this up, I don't see how the Spurs shouldn't take him with the Toronto pick. Like , take Collier AND Shepard. Most of the time, uber productive college players -- especially those who aren't super seniors and play in a major conference -- do turn out to be good pros. Dude don't look anything like a star, and he's not even a defensive ace. But he does seem like Jones with a jumpshot but not the same burst to the rim. The Spurs should absolutely prioritize finding that penetrating star, but Shepard can play both guard positions, or so seems to be the case right now. So you can draft that big athletic high-upside guy with your first pick, use future assets on getting another such player, and then use that Toronto pick on a bona fide role-player that checks a bunch of boxes.

    Again, there's supposedly conference and tournament play left to go, and there's a chance Sheppard falls back to Earth. But yeah, if you think he's going to be somewhere between Reaves and White you take him, even at seven. The team simply can't afford to draft another raw player who can't do anything at the NBA level for multiple years. The team just can't afford to let such a player develop given Wemby and whomever is taken with the team's natural pick.

    Then again, looking at Johnny Davis in terms of how a guy can seem like a high-floor prospect and be completely unworkable in the NBA. It's just more reason to be cautious until the team gets a chance to work him out.

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    I’m all for one of Dillingham or Sheppard with the Toronto pick.

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    I’m all for one of Dillingham or Sheppard with the Toronto pick.
    yup...both upgrade over branham and tre jones....so im down with it

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    Bottom line is that if the only thing we do this offseason is add two top-10 picks, then we're going to be terrible against next season. If that happens:


    • Some folks on this board will be okay (or even happy with that). Some of those will be because they want another tank season, others because they like seeing Pop fail.
    • Some folks who have come on record and said the tanking should stop after this season will suddenly change their tunes and tell us CIAPop is a genius.
    • Some folks will continue to criticize this team for a lack of direction.


    Despite how fun the content of this message board will be, for the reasons above I hope this is not what happens this offseason.
    What I don’t get is how people think life is guaranteed to them in four years tbh

    Four years to maybe see something great from the team they love. It makes more sense to hope that success comes sooner.

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    im not saying you want a team full of brent formses but offensive skill and the ability to get off 3 point shots with a quick release is so much more valuable right now than individual defensive prowess. a competent coach would scheme defense a lot better to make sure players get help where needed. we already have an all-world anchor which makes that a lot easier, too.
    This team already struggles to take advantage of its current shooters, I don’t know why you believe adding more will help.

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    This team already struggles to take advantage of its current shooters, I don’t know why you believe adding more will help.
    If we are getting this version of pop it frankly doesn’t matter if we had the b2b warriors roster and there’s no point in anybody talking about how to build the team

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    I don't think Sheppard is the next Haliburton, but he looks to be in the mold of Holiday, White, Caruso, Exum, Podziemski, Mann, Smart, Wallace, Suggs, Melton, Brogdon and Quickley, as a 3 and D combo guard/secondary creator.

    That's a valuable, high floor archetype and he projects as the best shooter of the bunch as well.

    Unless he falls off a cliff, he should be high priority.
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