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Indeed— I think Spurs hunted those teams. They’re the classic middling, stuck in the mud franchises vying for the 10th seed. The historic FO birds (SAC, CHA, WAS) were too obvious.
Right now, Toronto, Atlanta and Chicago are 7-9 in the lottery right now. Of course those rankings will change, but show how either fortunate or prescient the FO was in dealing with these teams. Each is treadmilling in sub-mediocrity with no real way to get out.
Of course the risk will be them blowing things up. Atlanta can't mask their picks from us - we get them regardless. Chicago is on the verge of selling. Good for us the protections bottom out at 1-8. Toronto very likely conveys no matter what. Even if they blow it up this year, they'd have to keep the pick in the 1-6 range for three years running.
The Charlotte pick probably doesn't convey, but it was a throw-in pick anyway. Our top hope is for the Hawks to just crater (although unlikely). The Toronto and Chicago picks they may just thread the needle on.
Indeed— I think Spurs hunted those teams. They’re the classic middling, stuck in the mud franchises vying for the 10th seed. The historic FO birds (SAC, CHA, WAS) were too obvious.
No more Baylor players (this coming from a Baylor alum). Walter, he sucks. Bust written all over him. He doesn't create his own shot, he's decent defensively but he's completely overrated on the O-end. I'd rather draft Kentucky bench than Walter, dude is going to flame out
If the Hawks can out-tank the Raptors over the rest of the season it will be very hard for the Raptors to crack the bottom 6 records. That would give the Raptors at most about a 1/3 chance of cracking the top 4, meaning the Spurs would have a 2/3 chance at getting the Raptors' pick.
That might be the overall best-case scenario: the Hawks and Raptors both tank but the Hawks do it better, with the Raptors failing to fall behind any of the 5 teams they are currently ahead of now (Pistons, Spurs, Wizards, Hornets, Blazers).
It’s pretty amazing to think that if the CHI pick conveys in 2026, the Spurs could have 2 quality lottery picks in each of the next 3 drafts. And then a chance at another in each of 2027 (hopefully not two!), 28, 29 when the next Tatum and Luka deals end. It’s like the opposite of what Dallas did in building around Luka where they went all in too soon in my view (KP trade). Ideally they add to that tally if/when they trade Keldon, which I feel may mark the end of their sell off of talent they’ve developed internally (DJ, White, Jakob, Keldon).
Wemby is really set up nicely to succeed.
Agreed for the most part. On KJ though, I think we might use him to get actual players that give sime balance instead of selling him for picks.
Not a BU alum but still an interested party due to relatives - I saw literally no dribble drives in a highlight film of Walter - only catch and shoots and one dribble shift and shoot. He's a good shooter from the looks of it, but I'd like to see more offensive versatility.
I had high hopes for Sochan, but these one and done players are oftentimes such a cr@p shoot. Jeremy looks lost out there right now.
collier with a good game scoring 26....Hopefully that gets him going....Hopefully some of these
prospects start showing something
This would be ideal if everything fell just right.
Spurs need to add a vet. Trade Vassell and draft picks(any picks but Atlanta's firsts and the 2024 picks) for Mikal Bridges. Then trade Sochan for Jordan Hawkins. Spurs need to add shooting.
Draft both Sarr(with SA first) and Castle with the Toronto pick(hopefully Castle falls in the Toronto pick range).
Wemby
Sarr
Castle
Hawkins
Mikal Bridges( need at least one winning veteran starter)
Move away from having to start Sochan, Collins, Tre Jones, Vassell(need to trade to land Bridges) and Johnson
Turn the team over in one year.
Better than hoping for the current players to develop/improve skills they don't have.
trading Vassell and picks for Bridges is idiotic. Even trading Vassell for Bridges straight up wouldn't make sense
Mikal isn't worth the squeeze. Teams are fsr better off trying to find a new version of him rather than paying his market value. The Spurs certainly shouldn't be paying Vassell and multiple unprotected picks for him.
Mikal Bridges is way better. Vassell will never be as good
That’s a very depressing best case scenario
What is depressing is holding on to the current losing roster and hoping they develop skills they don't have.That’s a very depressing best case scenario
Mikal Bridges averages 2 points more per game than Vassell while playing 4 more minutes and having a real PG. Try again
Spur fan again over rating their players.Mikal Bridges averages 2 points more per game than Vassell while playing 4 more minutes and having a real PG. Try again
You're not getting Bridges for Vassell and some crap firsts, that's a pipe dream.
There are some in here who wouldn't even make that trade if it were available.
Vassell is an above average defender and for that reason not someone I'd want to move unless getting a defensive upgrade, but Bridges is elite, easily one of the best perimeter defenders in the league.Mikal Bridges averages 2 points more per game than Vassell while playing 4 more minutes and having a real PG. Try again
I'm not advocating for the trade in question (I wouldn't even pursue it), but not for a trivial reason like this.Mikal Bridges averages 2 points more per game than Vassell while playing 4 more minutes and having a real PG. Try again
Averages don't mean much. Rates, percentages, efficiency do.
Sarr's probably going #1 too anyways. I don't see the fit next to Victor at all and as of right now the draft I'd love to see is Risacher + Dillingham, especially with Risacher shooting 40% from the three in the French league. Would probably have to get really lucky on draft position from the Toronto pick to get Dillingham though.
Think if I got the #1 pick I'd offer it to Brooklyn for Bridges since Sarr would be a poor fit and Risacher isn't a good enough prospect to take at #1.
I’d give keldon too tbh
vassell + bridges at the wings and now you’re really cooking with gas if you can secure dillingham with the other pick (or topic if he falls bc of injury)
I think Sarr would be enough to get Bridges other than some trash to balance salaries.I’d give keldon too tbh
vassell + bridges at the wings and now you’re really cooking with gas if you can secure dillingham with the other pick (or topic if he falls bc of injury)
The Nets aren't going to give up on Bridges. They will build around him. He is their SGA-lite. Sean Marks is much too smart to give up on a two way player like that. They will try to use their other role players - Johnson, Finney-Smith, Cam Thomas, Dinwiddie, O'Neale etc to get their draft picks.
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