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It's already at 10 pagesI wonder if this will hit 10 pages before people realize it isn't gonna happen tbh
Atlanta GM is not a robot. He is not going to trade DJM back to the Spurs for less than what they traded to get him. That would be Exhibit A to the notice of termination the gm would get. They may have talks with the Spurs to up the bid on DJM, but my guess is that with Young, they still feel like they should be competing. Their roster isn't bad, but they can stomach a trade with the Lakers to get Austin Reeves or Siakum from Toronto. They will just use San Antonio to get draft picks on top of whatever players they get, but they want win now players, not a "blow it up and start over." Trading for any Spurs players not Vassel or Wemby (obviously Wemby is off limits) is not good for them. They will want legit contributors for the playoffs and whatever draft capital they can get.
It's already at 10 pagesI wonder if this will hit 10 pages before people realize it isn't gonna happen tbh
I love them trading for Soakim since he's said he wouldn't resign there, thereby leaving them with no assets to improve next year. That would be gold..
Yes, that's why I think a trade with Toronto would have to include draft picks and other players. DJM would be a steal for Toronto because Siakam isn't going to sign with Toronto and if Atlanta isn't good if he joined them, he'd leave in free agency. To be honest, there are a few franchises that you roll the dice on with trades that their front office is so incompetent that they will mess up efforts to go all in. Atlanta is a team that isn't high on the free agency list and Young isn't Curry and to be honest, I didn't think the DJM trade made sense at the time. I would've thought Twolves would be a better destination, but I think they are happy with Conley.
Are we sure Siakim isn’t screwing himself with they flippant proclamation about not signing with team X or Y? Which team has the capspace this summer to give him the payday he wants? Is it just Philly? I’d be trying to make sure I’m on a team that can get my Bird right, sign there, and then my way out elsewhere.
Still funny how spurstalk go wild over trying to obtain win now players that don't match Wemby's timeline.
Spurs will be opportunistic and will only dip into the treasure chest of picks for someone 23 and under. Not many with all star potential will be available if at all. So Spurs just gonna Spurs and defer any action.
Don't give up Sochan for ing Murray. No way. Not a chance. I know ST have chosen Sochan as the hated one, but you'll regret it.
Chicago might be another outlier. Dunno, maybe getting DeRozan over to LaLaLand finally and getting a small package including Caruso to Atlanta. It'd have to be peppe up a little, but it's the sort of deal the Hawks should be looking for, turning DJM into pieces to round out the team. Chicago is going to lose DDR for nothing this summer, so may look to consolidate a good young guard tied up in a contract for a while. I know the Lakers want to keep Reaves. Not sure what else they have that appeals. Cam Reddish, lol.
It’s short term thinking, too many are simply thinking Wemby needs to win ROY and nothing else long term matters.. Stay the course and maybe Wemby doesn’t win ROY but there’s more championships to follow. We can all agree to one thing, Murray is not the best option. I’m baffled how many think the Spurs need to be the best they can be in their generational talent’s year even if it cost their future. It does go to show why this whole board isn’t getting paid millions for their opinion. Suddenly everyone has become Wemby fans rather than Spurs fans. It’s pure stupidity
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There looks like several. I imagine he already knows where he's going .
I don't know. I used to think that. But now I think Wemby's timeline started like 10 games ago. The beginning of the season, he was up and down. But when he finally got moved to center, he really started dominating and steadily in December he turned into a force with only 25 minutes a game contribution. He's made more threes than Curry as a rookie and he's blocked more shots than rookie Motumbo playing was less minutes. Guy is flat out dominating in a way that I could not imagine to start the season. I thought we'd be lucky for him to score 15 points a game. If he played 35 minutes, I think he might be a top 7 scorer in the league and certainly number 1 in blocks, high in steals, and high in rebounds.
The first three wouldn't sign him, but the next 5 could do it. But they aren't going to max him. Everyone talks about him being a great player, but how good could he and Ananoby be if they can't even make Toronto a playoff team?
Spurs should try and get Caruso. He would show the young guys how to play defense and be aggressive. Underrated player. Lakers went downhill when he left.
Wemby still needs to round out offensively before the window opens. Even if it is open now, makes little sense for the Spurs to win a few more games this season to push themselves out of the bottom 3. Earliest I can see the Spurs making a splash is next year when they see how much Wemby has developed. But I still think next year will be a transition year and we won't see much movement until year 3.
is the plan to just add a bunch of 19, 20, and 21 year olds to fit on wemby's timeline? the spurs had basically 3 completely different iterations of contending squads with duncan. the twin towers, the big 3, and the beautiful game (and then a couple of years where kawhi was the man). this isn't going to be one continuous 15-20 year roster of wemby and friends growing up together
the spurs will need a mix of veteran talent, leadership, and youth. dejounte just turned 27. he's not exactly declining anytime soon. he's under a bargain contract for at least another 3 seasons after this year.
I could see Philly, OKC, or Houston maxing him out..
This. If they can get him for cheap, it's a no brainer. I just don't think Atlanta would/could do that given the backlash the GM would get. The Spurs have good draft capital. If they are in the lottery, then maybe they get someone good, but everyone is saying this is a weak draft. Maybe it's not, but if they got Murray for cheap, I'd be on board with them doing that and giving up on a top 3 pick. I mean, PG is the most urgent position from my perspective and Murray checks the boxes for what you need for this team.
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These Guys Are Obsessed With Having Wemby And Friends. It’s Not Like Those 23 And Under Players Are Turning Out Nice, Look At The Current Ones We Do Have… People Want To Go Another Round Of Sochan, Primo, Vassell, Etc And Hope They Become The Next Tony Or Manu For Wemby? It’s Nowhere Near Realistic And Reeks Of A “Hope For The Best” At ude With No Actual Strategy.
Would be funny to see Dejounte demand a trade to the San Antonio Spurs. Atlanta turned its back on him after he signed that loyalty discount extension... Get revenge with Wemby by your side!
Spending a couple of extra firsts on a known quan y on a good contract at a relatively young age > Spending at least one first drafting an unknown rookie quan y who'd have to go through years of Pop's BS Hunger Games trials like playing out of position/minutes restrictions/random benchings to build character or teach them a lesson or whatever.
At most two of ATL's original firsts or one first plus whoever-the- outside of Wemby/Vassell and I'd be on board. Wemby literally left the court in Cleveland screaming in frustration about how diabolical the playmaking around him is. If the chance to change that appears you should take it.
Maybe they can in a three-way trade.
And, the spurs need bridge players like smart/brogdon who can eventually be moved to get them a Holiday or Porzingis. Murray’s contract is definitely movable, he fits an immediate need, and helps resolve a potential logjam of integrating a bunch of youth over the next 5 or so years. The plan was never to actually use all those picks.
Murray would be a bird in the hand, a solid vet they might be able to get for pennies on the dollar. Topic and Collier have looked less than impressive, Castle can't shoot, pretty much leaves Dillingham as the best looking bet at PG but he's no sure thing either. Both Scoot Henderson and Amen Thompson would probably go first in this year's draft and they have both looked awful as rookies. It's a real crapshoot in the draft and if they can get their PG situation settled with Murray it allows them to take some swings on fowards with their draft picks. No one other than rascal is saying mortgage the future for Murray. This ain't the Spurs front office that drafted Kawhi, Manu, and Tony, this is the front office that just pissed away three firsts on Sochan, Branham, and Wesley, so stupidity is thinking they shouldn't make moves for good young players on bargain contracts because let's just stockpile picks forever.
Two of those unprotected firsts is way too high a price for Murray. No one else is going to offer anything like unprotected picks in the Cooper Flagg and Cameron Boozer drafts. Only one I'd trade them back is the 27 pick. No way in on the 25 pick or the 26 swap, though if they want the lesser of the Spurs and Hawks 25 picks that might be something worth considering.
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