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    Just in case anyone was hoping for the full reunion, you can forget about it. Kawhi just extended with the Clippers, and Paul George is likely to do so as well.

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    I watched the Hawks' 2 most recent games against Orlando and Indiana. I'd recommend anyone with NBA TV go watch the Indiana game, where DJM scored 30 in 34min and guarded Haliburton for some stretches. Offensively: - He looks much more confident in his shots, including his 3. His 3pt %s are reflected in that: this year a career high 38.4% on 6 attempts/gm. Thats a 5.7% jump with 1.7 more attempt/gm compared to his last year in SA. - He still makes some downright nasty plays with his combination of lateral bursts, length, and finishing. - Contrary to certain posters, he does in fact pass the ball. Good vision, and the passes are fast and sharp. - Contrary to certain posters, he is not a ball hog. It's just that his whole career he's had a length advantage, and is not afraid to use that advantage. Sounds like someone we know? Him + Wemby on PnR would be downright scary close the the basket. You can't leave Wemby 1:1, so Dejounte would have space and height. Defensively: - I don't know if it was too small a sample size, but he looks the same guys. He was never a lockdown 1-1 defender. He uses his length to make up for initial lateral quickness on ball, and his steals are pick pocket / off ball. He does not look like he's lost a step, at the ripe old age of 27. - Felt like most of the time the opposing team was either switching him off or flat out avoiding him. - He's 0.5 stl/game down compared to SA totals, I'd definitely chalk that up to team defense / mentality. - Overall I think any perceived defensive drop is due to being on ATL, where they try to out-shoot everybody. They just don't value defense as much. I think he'd snap right back into place in SA with Pop on him, not to mention Wemby behind him.


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    I worry about DJM culturally, but Patty would go a long way to smoothing that over and building another connection back to the days of the big 3.
    Talent >>> culture. Winning goes a long way toward breeding good culture. We've got enough nice guys/good soldiers on the team already. If Wemby's mindset could be swayed so easily by a guy like DJM, then he doesn't have a true superstar mentality.

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    Its really too bad we cant trade Collins because of him signing that late extension. I think he would fit what Atlanta wants, they could use a big that can stretch the floor. We seem to be playing better without him anyways.

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    100%. We’d All Be Laughing At The Rockets Right Now If They Were Having A Year Like Ours And Claim That They Are Headed Nowhere But Them Showing Positive Improvement As A Team (As A Result Of Having More Vets) Actually Makes Most Of Their Young Guys Look Good And There Isn’t Any Doubt Now Whether A Guy Like Sengun Is A Good Player Or Not Because They Are Having Success As A Team. Kudos To The Rockets For That. I Just Threw Up In My Mouth For Saying That.
    wHAT tHE iS wRONG wITH yOUR cAPSLOCK?

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    wHAT tHE iS wRONG wITH yOUR cAPSLOCK?
    He's channelling them Instagram baller vibes to manifest the trade tbh
    Last edited by Leetonidas; 01-10-2024 at 09:13 PM.

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    Its really too bad we cant trade Collins because of him signing that late extension. I think he would fit what Atlanta wants, they could use a big that can stretch the floor. We seem to be playing better without him anyways.
    Supposedly, their owner is cheap, and doesn’t want salary, anyways. Fortunately, we kept some ending contract veterans around for trade purposes. Cedi/Devonte works perfectly.

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    Not a wojbomb, but maybe some woj-rifle fire


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    DJM would help this team communicate a LOT better, the more I think about it the more I like it. There's little leadership experience out there.

    Elite passing could come from another position down the road, like a future SF. Rim-running shot-blocking power forward with a 3ball and we'd be getting somewhere.

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    a point i hadnt considered is that murray's contract has a 15% trade kicker

    his deal would be closer to 4/130 as opposed to 4/114

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    Trades are like the only thing Brian Wright is good at. Let's go, get it done!

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    Johnson doesn't make much sense for the Hawks. Would they immediately look to re-route him for something that does? Or prefer him to paying Bey?

    The Spurs were rumored interested in the latter in the '20 draft, but he supposedly wants $20M annually and is basically a more established Champagnie.

    Maybe the Spurs would be fine including Johnson to lessen the draft capital and because he'd have less on ball time with Murray.

    Plus, this draft has plenty of SF's projected in the top 10.

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    If the Hawks are really just trying to cut salary they might insist on including Capela to reduce their 2024-2025 salary commitment. They also might be interested in cost controlled players for the next few years like Champ and Bassey, and the Spurs trading for Dejounte would make Wesley and Branham expendable who also are under contract for peanuts for the next couple of years.

    The point of this would be to tear things down while they still control their own pick this summer and try to rebound as quickly as possible in free agency, while getting back at least some draft capital (perhaps their own 2027 pick back, or one/both of the CHI/TOR picks, and as many seconds as they want). Trading Dejounte and Capela for expirings would give them about $27M in cap space this summer, though they would have to renounce every single cap hold.

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    a point i hadnt considered is that murray's contract has a 15% trade kicker

    his deal would be closer to 4/130 as opposed to 4/114
    good reason to make him happy in San Antonio

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    Johnson doesn't make much sense for the Hawks. Would they immediately look to re-route him for something that does? Or prefer him to paying Bey?

    The Spurs were rumored interested in the latter in the '20 draft, but he supposedly wants $20M annually and is basically a more established Champagnie.

    Maybe the Spurs would be fine including Johnson to lessen the draft capital and because he'd have less on ball time with Murray.

    Plus, this draft has plenty of SF's projected in the top 10.
    Murray and Keldon are best buds... retaining Keldon to ensure good comradery in the locker room can only be synergistic. They will hit the ground running.

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    kuminga has intrigue, future warriors picks could actually be tasty, and CP3 fits the bill of an expiring player while also not being useless on the floor

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    kuminga has intrigue, future warriors picks could actually be tasty, and CP3 fits the bill of an expiring player while also not being useless on the floor
    ATL: we like the fit with Dejounte and Trae Young
    GSW: hold my beer …

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    I thought you couldn't trade an injured player? How long is Paul expected to be out for?

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    ATL: we like the fit with Dejounte and Trae Young
    GSW: hold my beer …
    ... but Steph is actually a demon off-ball. Trae just cant do it

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    Why is this thread so active? Dejounte isn't even close to talented enough to put up with the bull and drama he would bring and the money he would demand.

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    kuminga has intrigue, future warriors picks could actually be tasty, and CP3 fits the bill of an expiring player while also not being useless on the floor
    That would be the end of Klay in GS.

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    Why is this thread so active? Dejounte isn't even close to talented enough to put up with the bull and drama he would bring and the money he would demand.
    He’s already signed an extension for 4 years, starting at $25M and increasing to $31.6M the last year. He’s totally worth that money.

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    Nah, he not.

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    Why is this thread so active? Dejounte isn't even close to talented enough to put up with the bull and drama he would bring and the money he would demand.
    Right, DeJounte is better than any current guard/wing on the Spurs but he's also proven to be a bit of a headcase. Plus, didn't he just 'badmouth' our organization just last season so much so that everyone was upset about it?

    And that is to say nothing about him being nearly in his 30's (he'll be 28 in September), plus is gonna want a massive extension (which was said previously the Spurs hesitant to offer him).

    So with all that said, I'd rather continue on with Jones, Branham, Wesley (please start playing him more, Pop) and whatever future guards we could acquire (through the draft).

    Weren't y'all the same people that said any team with DeJounte as it's best player (or second best with Victor here) isn't going very far?

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