On the Capela incoming, why not include Collins on the outgoing?
Capela and Murray fix our rebounding problems also.
a) collins cant be included in a trade until the offseason
b) if the hawks goal is to shed capela's contract which expires at the end of the 24/25 season, why would they take back collins whose contract runs through the end of the 25/26 season?
capela would basically be a more realized version of what people wanted bassey to be. obviously an upgrade, but the opportunity cost is something to consider
Murray Gets Traded In The Next Few Days Tbh
Can’t do it until this summer. He has an impossible to match cap figure until his extension kicks in, like one figure coming in, and a different one going out.
We should see if we can work our way into that trade and see if the magic would be willing to give up Black. They would have four point guards on their roster (again) after that trade. They would probably be running DJ and Suggs together with Cole Anthony as their backup. Black has the height and passing to be a great running partner with Wemby. With their log jam at guards it might be worth checking on the price.
What an asshole lol
A). Not what you said: Acting like Young wouldn't instantly give you a 6-year window of contending is borderline re ed.
B) hope the spurs FO don’t base a multi-million trade off of one half.
and tonight 5-14, 1-6 three points and 8 TOs. Young plays well against the Spurs but he still doesn't shoot well for the year. Not sure that a 43-million dollar PG who cannot shoot and defend would be a good option for the Spurs
That team would be smarter to trade Trae and keep DJ
you're not wrong. but they'd never
it does seem challenging to build around Trae, though i think he is a good enough offensive engine to justify it. with that said, ATL has failed to do so. better to reset while they can get a huge haul, instead of basically selling murray while his value is lower.
the complication is they dont control their own draft picks after 2024, so rebuilding and selling Trae could be really tough to swallow if they cant expect good lotto picks
WTF double post
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Only way to trade Trae that makes any sense for them would be if they got their picks back from the Spurs. Otherwise you're tanking to give the Spurs three amazing picks. Which would be my best case scenario, that they trade Trae to say the Heat or the Pelicans for picks and now the Spurs get three unprotected picks likely each drafting 1-7 to go land a superstar or maybe see if they can draft one or three.
It seems to me they are going to end up moving Trae anyway when he asks out. So they should move him now for as many picks as they can get to replace what they've already lost to us. I think they're ed if they do and ed if they don't to a certain degree, so get as much as you can.
yep, they ed themselves with Murray's trade. I really hope that they tank next year for the Spurs to have a chance at Cooper Flagg.
The situation has so much parameters and unknowns that it's impossible for me to say whether or not Spurs should pursue a trade for Murray. Some of these parameters:
- State of the relationship between Spurs and Murray: behind public declaration, how Spurs and Murray truly feel about each other?
- Hawks picks owned by Spurs: How bad will Hawks be between 2025 and 2027? They are in a tough spot but how bad could it turn?
- Trae Young: rumors about Young being fine with going to SA aren't anecdotal at all. Because of Hawks' picks owned by Spurs, Spurs are the most likely destination for a Young trade. How far is Young from wanting a trade? What is Spurs view on him given that he is a very polarizing player?
- Tanking: Trading right now for Murray will hurt the tanking. How important it is for Spurs to remain a bottom 3 team this season?
- PGs in the 2024 draft: How high are Spurs on the point guards prospect of this draft? If they are high enough on them, going after Murray doesn't make a lot of sense. If they likes more SF/PF of this class, going after Murray is a good option.
It's just a very unusual situation. I have no clue what Spurs should do.
I Don’t Know How Anyone Can Listen To Murray Talk In Interviews Today And Not See How Much He Has Grown. Everything He Says Nowadays Are As If He’s Reading From A Script Written By The Spurs. In This Interview, Many Of These Phrases Are From Pop.
I hope Wright does though
I don't see the Spurs doing better than getting DJ back as their point guard. He is a borderline all star player, averaging 21,5,5 this year shooting 38.3% from 3 on high volume, is a plus defender whose style probably meshes well with Wemby. The only negative that I see is that getting him likely pushes us out of the bottom 3 for the final record. It seems that since there is no definitive top choice this year that may not be as big of a deal. With his team friendly contract I think I would rather trade for him than Young.
There aren’t many teams with any excess, or sometimes any tradeable FRPs at all. I’d like to see SA hammer out the framework of a DJ deal now,to be executed this summer.
Dejounte is the new George Hill that got us Kawhi, with those unprotected FRP’s. The FO would never give them back and lose those chances of potentially drafting top tier players with those picks, come on. I’m actually enjoying watching Dejounte got a taste of his own medicine. He’s practically auditioning with those interviews. But maybe he can give better interview at SJax podcast?
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I don't want him back.Dejounte is the new George Hill that got us Kawhi, with those unprotected FRP’s. The FO would never give them back and lose those chances of potentially drafting top tier players with those picks, come on. I’m actually enjoying watching Dejounte got a taste of his own medicine. He’s practically auditioning with those interviews. But maybe he can give better interview at SJax podcast?
Not what the Spurs need and is going to be 28 before the next season starts.
An elite floor general and playmaker is an absolute must. Whether it be someone like Trae who's going to be 1A/1B option with Wemby or a pass first point guard, we simply must get that type of point guard.
DJ will never have that kind of playmaking IQ and more or less doesn't fit the timeline.
I'm hoping someone fleeces the Hawks for him and they completely crumble.
Then we can strike gold with those picks or get Trae for dirt cheap by returning them to Hawks.
I don’t think that’s even remotely true. You need a distributor who can play hard nosed D, throw a lob, and score opportunistically.
Are you putting capital letters at each word on purpose, just to be like Murray on Instagram ? That’s very difficult to read.
I'll pass on Murray. Just never been a huge fan of his game in today's NBA especially when he expects to dominate the ball most possessions. Just seems like one of those guys who is a really good player but will never take the next step to great/elite ala DeRozan.
Give me Trae if he legit wants to come here. How exciting would that be.
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