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Then we need more creation on the wings.
In my opinion it would be easier to get an elite playmaker at point and then 3-D wings than trying to find another point forward.
It seems like Murray is going to be salary dumped. I can’t see a way for the Spurs to re-acquire Murray that allows the Hawks to save face. The Hawks are an absolute mess. Hiring former Spurs (Fields & Snyder) ain’t going to save them either.
Then we need more creation on the wings.
In my opinion it would be easier to get an elite playmaker at point and then 3-D wings than trying to find another point forward.
you just explained why you don't want Murray then ask for Trae who is all of those and more
Nah. Maybe to a certain degree but Trae changes the entire court and how opponents have to defend. Nobody is worried about DJM.
Trae plays no defense but that's today's NBA.
Then we win either way.... Atlanta salary dumps him to us for chump change or to somebody else for chump change....either way, they are worse and we own their picks.
They sure played a lot of defense back in the good old days
League front office is working hard to get Dejounte to the Lakers.
No doubt, but Atlanta is going to jave to come off that 2 1st's demand or LA is gonna have to come off Reaves to get it done. Who blinks first?
The league has... ways.
Yes, the NBA has no vested interest in funneling talent to help LeBron, you're absolutely right.
the nba rejected chris paul to the lakers
yes, the nba wants stars in big markets. but i dont think they put the squeeze on other teams to deliver them for discounts.
the league has continued making it more and more difficult for big market teams to spend spend spend. the new cba is a prime example
This comes down to what you value more: DJ or the Hawks unprotected picks, because there's no way in the Hawks are sending us Murray without getting, at least, one of those back. And, to me, the answer is pretty clear: give me those picks all the way. Do you realize how awesome it will be when we are a playoffs team in 2027 and have a top 5 pick coming in the offseason.
yeah, i wouldnt give the unprotected ATL picks in a murray trade. at best i would convert one on them into a swap or something. so instead of ATL giving us their 2027 pick, it becomes a swap where the spurs get the more favorable.This comes down to what you value more: DJ or the Hawks unprotected picks, because there's no way in the Hawks are sending us Murray without getting, at least, one of those back. And, to me, the answer is pretty clear: give me those picks all the way. Do you realize how awesome it will be when we are a playoffs team in 2027 and have a top 5 pick coming in the offseason.
if Pop is still around, that pick is going to spend the entire year in the G-league or riding the pineThis comes down to what you value more: DJ or the Hawks unprotected picks, because there's no way in the Hawks are sending us Murray without getting, at least, one of those back. And, to me, the answer is pretty clear: give me those picks all the way. Do you realize how awesome it will be when we are a playoffs team in 2027 and have a top 5 pick coming in the offseason.
How is that an ATL asset in a Murray trade?
Because they have no pick in 2027, and this would give them the least value between the two we own there.
atlanta currently does not have a 2027 pick
in my scenario, atlanta receives the worse of the spurs/atl 2027 picks
so basically if you rewind on the murray deal, rather than atlanta outright giving the spurs an unprotected 2027 pick, we make it such that they gave us an unprotected swap
If I’m ATLANTA, I’d rather have the CHA pick than the worst of ours and theirs in 27. At least that one may be in the teens.
If they want to build around Young, getting the 25 and 27 picks comverted to swaps means they can trade up to five firsts instead of 2. It's a huge difference.
The worst of ATL or SA ‘27 could be as high as #2 or as low as #30, but it will DEFINITELY be a FRP. The CHA pick (barring a major unexpected event this year) can only be as high as #15 in 2025 or as low as #60 in 2026 and #60 in 2026.
Worst of ATL/SA ‘27 >>>>>> CHA in terms of pick value, and it’s not even close. This is before factoring in value of freeing up ATL to make other trades. Any suggestion to value otherwise is just being disingenuous.
I feel bad for Landry/Quinn, they probably want to ship Trae out ASAP but ownership is stopping them from it.
We know the bling player give the dumb fans false hope so the owners can rake in the money on ticket, beer and jersey sales. Hawks ownership you know is looking at it from that angle not what wins basketball games.
What offers are starting to look like:
https://x.com/TheAthletic/status/174...315488165?s=20
The Lakers and Hawks have discussed potential frameworks of a deal surrounding Dejounte Murray, sources tell
@jovanbuha
◻️ LAL receives: Dejounte Murray
◻️ ATL receives: D’Angelo Russell, Jalen Hood-Schifino, 2029 first-round pick and additional draft compensation
https://x.com/Kennyduhballern/status...024254193?s=20
Sources are telling me that the Knicks and Hawks have already verbally agreed on a deal to send Dejounte Murray to New York. The deal will involve Atlanta sending Murray, AJ Griffin, and a protected 2027 second round pick to New York in exchange for Evan Fournier, Quentin Grimes, and 2 unspecified first round picks and a 2024 second round pick. Atlanta is still gauging more offers which is why the deal hasn’t been made official just yet but right now the Knicks are far in the lead in the Dejounte Murray sweepstakes.
Knicks deal makes them really intriguing.
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