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He’s really too dumb to play here.
If it's a low price I'd be curious about Kuzma IF Pop sees potential there from his time before with him. More so than overpaying to get Dejounte.
He’s really too dumb to play here.
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Even under duress, the Lakers wouldn’t make the pick that when to Utah with Westchuck unprotected. It was 1-4 protected, with one chance to convey, before becoming seconds.
That was such a quizzical trade for Ainge.
Kuzma for $25 million is ing gross. Don't think I'd do that trade even if they took Collins' money with how ty defensively Kuzma is.
Trae Young would be an incredible pairing with Wemby, despite many poster's best efforts on here to convince themselves otherwise. I was actually the first person to mention the Spurs trading for Trae trade a couple months ago, before it started trending on social media (nbd).
But considering how badly we ed the Hawks in the Dejounte trade, I have no doubt that they'd be more than happy to return the favor in any trade involving Trae tbh. Would likely have to sell the farm to make it happen, and I'm not sure PATFO would be willing to do that. A lot will be determined on where we pick in the upcoming draft. If Topic is somehow attainable with our pick, think PATFO will gladly just go that route, even if we have to trade an extra pick to move up to get him, as opposed to putting together a package of multiple FRP's + Keldon or another player.
McBuckets is gone. Only a matter of time tbh. Hopefully we get more than a SRP or two, considering we’ve already stock-piled a ton of those for the foreseeable future, though I’m not holding my breath.
Trae would be a perfect Spur. The only idiots against it are Sniffers who still think this is 2006 and don't realize what a beautiful modern day pairing Trae/Wemby would be
Not sure if it'll happen but Atlanta controlling their own destiny by getting their 2025, 2026, and 2027 picks back is definitely worth something tbh.
McBuckets should definitely be traded. I don't really even care about the return. I still don't know why we signed him since we're not gonna get much value back.McBuckets is gone. Only a matter of time tbh. Hopefully we get more than a SRP or two, considering we’ve already stock-piled a ton of those for the foreseeable future, though I’m not holding my breath.
I guess he's earned it by being a good soldier but nobody was paying him what we did that offseason. BWrong
McDermott and Branham straight up for Mykal Bridges. Who says no.
Interesting news that we turned down a trade for Doug last year. Not going to lose sleep over the 2028 SRP (or whatever) we missed out on though. Doug was probably pretty useful in helping us meet the salary floor. He's done is duty.
The time to move him was last season or summer. Everyone knows he’s headed to buy outMcBuckets is gone. Only a matter of time tbh. Hopefully we get more than a SRP or two, considering we’ve already stock-piled a ton of those for the foreseeable future, though I’m not holding my breath.
Murray's not a difference maker so why trade away picks for him in addition to paying him an average of 28M over the next four years.
Murray had a career year two seasons ago but is otherwise a 20/5/5 player who shoots 46% from the field on 18 shots a game.
The "Murray's not a difference maker" just literally won two games in a row for Atlanta with game ending shots.
So he'd provide offense desperately needed to this team while only making $3 million a year more than Vassell. No one's saying to empty the Spurs war chest of picks or give Atlanta their 25 or 26 back. But for the Chicago pick and their 27 with say top 5 protection, or even better the Spurs 27 pick, I'd do it if he's willing to waive the trade kicker. There doesn't look to be a Chris Paul or a Gary Payton in this draft, and even if there was Payton wasn't a good PG until he was like 24. So if the Spurs have Murray locked down they're not forced into drafting a PG who is likely to be a long term project and can instead look to forwards or just best available talent regardless of position. With Quickley now gone they're not finding a point anywhere close to as good as Murray in free agency.
People would rather trade inferior assets for inferior players rather than getting Trae Young. I totally get it.
I'd much rather trade for Trae Young if Atlanta wants to completely blow it up but that might just be wishful thinking.
We just need to be patient.
Imo, there's no way for Hawks to actually make a solid roster that can be at least ECF candidate, let alone be a legit contender.
Meaning that unless Trae is content with being on a parennial treadmill team, he'll ask out sooner or later.
I can't see him stay with the Hawks past the summer 2025, he probably asks out before next season's transfer deadline.
They can at best make a lateral move with DJ trade and other mediocre assets they have.
When Trae asks out or Hawks accept they're not going anywhere, Spurs are their golden ticket to un ing their situation.
Trading him to another team doesn't make sense because losing your franchise player and not having your own picks is just horrible.
From my point of view, if Trae actually asks out and the Spurs want him, no other team has a chance.
And he most definitely wants to play for the Spurs.
DJ is a solid player, but not what this team needs now.
"Murray isn't a difference maker" says fan of team who got 12 games worse simply by trading Murray away
Yeah, most definitely was just on him leaving and not throwing away games by sitting healthy players just to get the best odds.
Poeltl also left.
If DJ is so good, how come the Hawks got worse?
43-31 and 43-39 in two seasons before he got there.
41-41 with him and now 18-23 in his second season there, they can't even get .500.
(I'm just using your logic here, there are way more factors involved than just win percentage.)
You got any more bad takes or is that all for today?
Spurs would still be in the driver's seat to trade for Trae in a year or two if he asks out, and then you'd have a decent trade chip in Murray to move for better fitting pieces too. Of course if Trae is asking out behind the scenes right now, which wouldn't shock me given the way he has been talking about Victor and the Spurs to the media lately, you try to get him this year. I do think Murray is what the team needs now though (assuming Trae to be unavailable) and I'd take the bird in the hand if I can get him cheaply.
Kind of too late now, we're already halfway through the season and the only thing trading for DJ would accomplish is maybe pushing us out of top3 lottery odds.
Then there's that disgusting s bag Rich Paul. I'd rather not deal with him again. I'm sure he's pressuring the Hawks to accept the Lakers offer as we speak.
Plenty of players will be available in the summer.
Unless we can fleece the Hawks I'd rather not go for DJ.
If Trae is available, that's another story.
If the Hawks do move away from Young the Spurs are really their only real potential trading partner. Trading back their own picks is worth probably double the FRPs from another team. The Spurs trading back the 3 picks plus salary filler is likely better than 4 or 5 assets from another team. It would essentially mean we traded DJM for Trae and Wemby.
You have to start looking at teams that can even offer a good package for Young. There aren’t that many teams in the East that whether by fit or picks could even trade for him. The Heat are the only team I can think of and the package they can offer is worse than ours. It would be like Herro and picks. Maaaaybe CHI too. But I haven’t heard any chatter on that.
And there is no team in the West that can offer a package or even want him on their team except us. So we give them back one of our future FRP, their 25 FRP, and Vassell.
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