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Spurs need to get rid of his contract as soon as possible. Gotta salary dump him in the offseason.
Some of them posts on page 1 are beauties
Spurs need to get rid of his contract as soon as possible. Gotta salary dump him in the offseason.
I deserve all the shame in the world for anything positive I may have said about this deal
Its honestly not a horrendous contract but it does eat into the cap room this year which sucks if they were indeed planning on a tank this year. It's only 2 seasons so they can get off it easily, but they should not dump him unless they absolutely need to free up space for a signing. He's not as bad as many here make him out to be and if he would just stop trying to be 7 foot Curry and focus on what he does well taht would be good. He could easily return to being a positive player if the Spurs used him appropriately.
Salary filler for the inevitable trade, he'll be useful for that at least tbh.
This Is The Problem With Some Fans Who View A Player’s Effectiveness Strictly On One Side Of The Court. Even If Collins Suddenly Did Become A 7 Foot Curry, He’s One Of The Worst Defensive Big Men In The League.
No need to salary dump. Between him, Keldon, and Graham, thats a lot of flexibility that could nab a pretty big contract player if some team flames out during the playoffs or disappoints to end the year. Trae, Mitc , Ingram, JGrant, etc....
zollins is awful as a starter but he's a useful bench big. i'm not sure what the going rate for a serviceable center off the bench is so i can't say whether or not it's a terrible contract, especially since it's only two years.
Barlow is obviously the better fit for Wemby. I still like Zollins, but I don’t understand paying high dollar to him and Vassell before the season started. If they want to accept a lower offer I understand it more.
Eubanks at Phoenix, $2.5 M.
Drummond in Chicago, $3.4 M.
Jaxson Hayes on the Fakers, $2.3 M.
Thomas Bryant on the Heat, $2.7 M.
McGee at Sacto, $2.2 M.
Plumlee for the Clips, $5 M.
Hartenstein, Knicks, $16 M for 2 yrs, so avg of $8 M.
Backup centers are not expensive players, in NBA terms.
Of course the Spurs envisioned Zollins as an effective starter. So it goes.
The Collective Bargaining Agreement dictates that teams have to pay a certain amount to the players. The way the Spurs roster is, they’re short of players to pay. The rookies are on rookie scale contracts. Among the vets, who else is there? Pay big bucks to Mamu? Graham? Osman? McDermott? Nah.
I kinda think that is part of the calculation, which is why he only got the 2 years. Think it’ll be helpful have a range of stackable contracts of different hues for matching purposes: 6-8M, 10-12M, 17M.
Zach Collins is a good talent that can grow and get better, but is already a good offensive player and has good length. The problem with him on the Spurs is that if Wemby plays center, he's be at that position for 35-38 minutes (hopefully). That leaves very little room for Collins, who is worth of playing more than 12-15 minutes a game. That's a role for a guy like Barlow. Collins is essentially a luxury. I know the Spurs got him for cheap, but they should not trade him unless they get a number 1 pick for him or a legit piece.
Most at Spurstalk are always happy with any resigning.
Most at Spurstalk want to bring back ex players.
Most at Spurstalk get attached to the players on the team and over rate them and don't want to part with them.
Zach is being paid 7 million this year; if his play next year doesn’t warrant the raise then I’ll speak on it. He’s cool with me for right now
Yeah dude, he's not a good two way center because if he was he'd cost even more than that extension. I never said he was good defensively. I said he should play to his strengths and that the contract wasn't horrendous. The problem with some Spurs fans is that some of you can't read and/or have a conversation. s sake.
You Said He’s “Not As Bad As Many Here Make Him Out To Be” And That’s What I’m Addressing Here. So I Read Your Post Correctly And I Was Making A Conversation With You But For Some Reason You’re Acting Sensitive About It. ’s Sake As Well
Not only that he's not good defensively, but he's ing horrid.
Even if we had a defensively solid roster, he'd still be a liability.
With this perimeter defense around him, he instantly turns any lineup in one of the worst defensive lineups in the history of the game.
He's that bad.
And his 3pt shooting is atrocious considering that he's always wide open at the top of the key.
Barely above 30%.
He's everything opposite of what this team needs.
It's not his fault that he got the contract he did and it won't be that hard to move, but it's still really annoying.
How the does starting a post with "the problem with spurs fans" seem like the start of a conversation to you? Are you this ing socially awkward? And he's NOT as bad as people here make him out to be. That doesn't mean I think he's a defensive stopper. How you got there, I don't know. Its fine man, you just need to learn how to read and to talk to people and you'll be fine.
The last point you make is the main takeaway here. Collins has value when he's playing well and his contract isn't some kind of albatross. It's only a 2 year deal and he'd be pretty easy to get off of without giving away any big assets.
You’re The One Throwing A Fit Yet I’m The Socially Awkward One Lmao. Maybe You Need To Take A Chill Pill And Stop Making All Sorts Of Assumptions About People You Don’t Know.
Watching him yesterday he didn’t even have prayer when it came to contesting shots at the rim. It’s like watching Bryn Forbes defense where even if he tries to position himself he just can’t alter or affect a shot.
at least that was my takeaway in person
He's been MIA with the rolled ankle for a couple weeks. I'll wait to see how he looks after getting a couple games back in. The two year extension isn't bad, just isn't great.
I think there needs to be more focus on his mid-range and play at the basket more. Instead of at the 3pt line, but that has to be when he isn't on the floor with Wemby maybe.
With Tre starting now and Keldon off the bench I would like to see his dynamic within the structure of those lineup changes more to see how he responds once he gets a couple of games with some run to get back into a rhythm.
Zach strikes me as a very tradeable asset.
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