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Washington is a PF. He's played the vast majority of his minutes there. Ideally, he only plays C in certain small-ball situations. He's had to play more since Mark Williams got hurt. He'd probably be the best fit with Wemby on the team.
PJ, Another Undersized Center? No Thanks
Washington is a PF. He's played the vast majority of his minutes there. Ideally, he only plays C in certain small-ball situations. He's had to play more since Mark Williams got hurt. He'd probably be the best fit with Wemby on the team.
No one realistically available on either team I'd rather have than the Toronto pick. Spurs need a couple of starters, not to be blowing assets on replacements for Collins and Branham.
im confused. you think PJ Washington, a 6'7 forward, is a swing big who could be an alternative to collins? he seems much more like a sochan alternative
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Yes. Do I think that's plan A on a contender? No. Do I think it's a smart move to make to get Washington on the roster before the off-season for what's basically a couple of seconds? Yes. As Wemby gets more minutes, it'll be more important than ever for the third front-court player to be able to play next to Wemby. Washington can do that. He can also play C for some minutes, though he shouldn't just be the backup there. I would expect all three of Wemby, Collins and Wash to play this year amd and for the Spurs to be open to using PJ's and/or Zach's contracts in more substantial trades in the summer.
Normally you might be able to send CHA their pick back for a player on the premise that it frees CHA up to trade some picks, but I doubt CHA cares since they won't be buyers in the near future.
Sensible trade from both teams that doesn't really change anything as far as the protected 1st the Spurs have from the Hornets, but also another reminder that these protected picks sound nice in theory, but could easily end up having minimal value in the end.
A team with a generational prospect shouldn't be too precious with them.
As for Washington, I wouldn't bother burning assets on him. Despite his mammoth 7'3'' wingspan, he can't rebound and isn't stout enough to jostle with behemoth C's.
really? he's far from perfect, but losing rozier for nothing makes it less likely that they make noise next year
i say "for nothing" in that they didnt receive anything that will help them next year. lowry is obviously gone and the FRP is in the future
They need to be prepared to be buyers or the risk LaMelo asking out and all the ramifications of that. It would be a smart move.
Sure, but the odds were always slim and I figured they'd head in this (logical) direction anyway.
100% agree. It’s a no brainer, if CHA valued resetting their cap and getting full control over their pick back, to trade CHA that pick back for PJ. Not even close. PJ has more value than 2 seconds in isolation but double so for SA who needs top 8 roster upgrades, shooting and who have plenty of picks to spare.
We MAY have two FRPs if TOR doesn’t draw into the top 6 in the lottery. I’m reluctant to spend assets on other team’s mid former FRPs that will have to be paid. Even if we don’t hit the jackpot on some of these picks, they are value contracts under team control for about 4 years.
Im not so sure. Everything they have done (Terry move possible aside as a deviation?) shows they have kind of preferred getting to playoffs. Im not so sure they will want to fully bottom out and they cant even if they wanted to with LaMelo+Miller+Williams. It seems more like a re-tooling while having all avenues open (picks to use/trade)
Agree right now and they are 99% likely trading Bridges or losing him in FA in off season. But im guessing those picks will be used not all to draft but trade for help and build a more cohesive roster around LaMelo/Williams/Miller.
They can’t trade Bridges unless he wants to go. Because of the drama that surrounded him the last year or so, he signed his year 5 QO, making him bothuntradeable without his consent, and an unrestricted FA this summer. I don’t think he’s really in their plans, otherwise they would have worked to avoid this situation.
He will be totally fine going to the teams linked to him IMO
What have they done to indicate this? They made their draft picks, welcomed Bridges back on his QO to try and rehab him, resigned a couple of their role players and added Ish Smith and Frank Ntilikina. These don't indicate any push to the playoffs anymore than the Spurs draft Wemby, resigning Collins, and bringing in Cedi Osman do.
Bringing back Bridges was pretty key IMO. If they wanted to tank, they had every reason especially with his crimes, to let him go and tank justifiably. He clearly helps them win and they took him back despite backlash. That speaks volumes to me and I dont think it was just to rehab value which is going to be meh regardless due to his baggage.
They've gone from a .329 win % last year to .244 this year, so clearly not.
Im talking about the mentality lol. Theres zero chance you or anyone there thinks adding him to the team makes them worse as some stealth tank
I'd say it would be about the same as if Keldon was out for the year and then came back. Yeah, he'd be one of our best players, but I wouldn't say his coming back would represent some kind of push for the playoffs.
yeah i definitely just see him as a PF. and as we've seen, the spurs dont really have an NBA caliber PF right now aside from Sochan (we went into this season thinking wemby would be a PF). and i agree, id send back the charlotte FRP for him at this point, given their outlook for next year.
i still want the spurs to find a PF with better size though. i dont want sochan to be the biggest 4 we have. (yes i know mamu exists, but tbh he's basically unplayable and wont be back next year anyway). barlow/collins havent proven that they can coexist alongside wemby as the nominal 4
PJ is 6’7”, and his 3 point shooting has worsened over the last 3 seasons, and now sits at 32%. Hard pass.
let‘s get Jalen Smith
You aren’t going to get some all star for that CHA pick so while Im not clamoring for PJ as some stud, I do think its a good value and risk/reward is all. But if SA has better plans for a better player in free agency for their projected 18M in cap space? Then no reason to do that deal.
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