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I’d rather spend more and get a better player. Just because it’s a mid pick that could convert to seconds doesn’t mean it’s a bargain.
from reports that came out nobody offered more than 1 draft pick and a player so I doubt they will ever get what they asked for, especially since everybody knows they are trying to get rid of him
I’d rather spend more and get a better player. Just because it’s a mid pick that could convert to seconds doesn’t mean it’s a bargain.
On paper, ATL's asking price looks high, but there are teams like NYK who have an abundance of ty picks that technically satisfy "two FRPs". NYK could include Grimes and all it takes is for Atlanta to say he is a starting-level player in a press conference and boom, they've met their asking price and can save face with the casual fan base.
Main question is going to be what ATL values more: the optics of the deal or getting the best return possible. The latter may very well come from San Antonio, but the Hawks likely don't want to be viewed as getting bent over by Brian Wright twice for the same player.
good example of how stories born out of "league sources" can be complete bull . now im not sure the original account is even reporting or repeating a story from a reputable source, so it could just be a troll post to be fair
^legit one of the worst nba youtube channels out there
he just looks at random trending rumors on twitter and makes clickbait videos about them. and ive seen at least one video where he just outright fabricates quotes, including one from coach pop
5:15 of this video
maybe im wrong, but i could not believe the quote when i came across the video, and could not find it anywhere. plus sounds nothing like pop
Keith Smith is great, needs to be given more props for all things cap related
Darius Garland would be nice for the Spurs.
Unfortunately Mitc is a FA this off-season and the Cavs likely feel he’s gone so they need to keep Garland.
If they can get Mitc to re-sign then Garland would be available because those two are a horrible fit together.
Spida has a player option next offseason….they have time to sort it out.
Another guy who would suit the Spurs is Anfernee Simons.
He’s redundant if the Blazers plan to keep Sharpe and Scoot and doesn’t fit the same timeline.
Neither Garland or Simons are great defenders so you’d have to surround them with at least one really good wing defender which the Spurs haven’t got atm.
Would prob take the Charlotte FRP, Raptors FRP and Chicago FRP to get Simons.
You are right for some reason thought he had one less year left. Garland is probably available but it would take a decent haul of 1sts to get him.
Garland has a huge contract….30+ annually for multiple years. I don’t see it working here but I get where you are goingSimons however would be nice!!!!
Simons is another Vessel/Keldon type player making 25M a year. No thanks.
Garland’s missed about 15-30% of games since coming into the league he’s only played 20 games this year
Meh no thanks on a 6'3" shooting guard who doesn't really do anything all that well except volume scoring. It's like Portland is determined to make a worse version of Dame + McCollum and expecting that to work this time.
Yeah, I just don't get it. The undersized backcourt experiment is one that fails 99.9% of the time, but countless teams still think they'll be the ones to buck the trend. It hasn't produced a single championship in the last 30 seasons, regardless of the individual talents involved.
Aren't you a guy who really wants to draft Dillingham?
Yeah to play point on a rookie contract
Garland is interesting but also a huge turnover machine. Zach Collins blushes at the turnovers Garland gets
Rob Dillingham v. Darius Garland in their college years. Garland's shooting percentages were very high, but he only played 5 cupcake November games against Liberty, Winthrop, Alcorn State, etc.
Their size/builds were very similar.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...darius-garland
I know all the drawbacks of Young, but I'm sick of all the half measures and hopefuls and Wembanyama is too good already to rely on those.
If he tries to force his way out this off season and wants to come here, offer the Murray package back to them, plus Collins, Jones, Graham and maybe one more 1st for him and Capela.
Then target Risacher in the draft and Burks or Wright in free agency . . .
Starters: Sochan, Risacher, Wembanyama, Vassell, Young
Bench: Johnson, Capela, Burks or Wright, Champagnie, Wesley, Branham, Barlow, Cissoko
Last edited by TD 21; 01-25-2024 at 04:40 PM.
Ultimately I agree with this. He would be our 1b, if not 2nd option completely behind Victor so not the same situation Atlanta deals with, also, as a muted defense of Trae and Atlanta problems, they have horrible ownership issues and chaos for a few years now, and that factors into the chaos on the court eventually.
I hope he demands a trade to us so for the first time ever we can be on the receiving side of things. Anyway, with Trae on board, it simplifies what pieces are needed, not to oversimplify, but 3 and D, basically.
I see Simons as more of a combo guard who would play the 1. I hate undersized backcourts as much as anyone so wouldn’t want anything to do with Simon’s playing the 2 guard next to another small PG.
Wemby
Sochan
Risacher or Cody Williams or
Vassell
Simons
Was the lineup I was thinking.
I’m terms of other options I agree Trae Young is by far the best gettable option at PG, then there’s a drop off to Garland, then another small drop off to Simons. Young will cost a lot though.
I agree Young would cost a lot. That's why there would have to be an unlikely pressure of he forcing his way to SA, and there's still a low chance he would get here.
If it goes into the summer, ATL would probably hold out for the Spurs 24 pick plus the Murray haul so they could begin the rebuild with 2 lotto picks (including their own presumably). And if Toronto keeps losing that pick could defer to next season or beyond, leaving SA without any lotto picks
The other credible bidder for Young would be the long speculated Wolves trade for Towns. Minnesota might want the cheaper Young and Conley is close to the end.
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