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    If it goes into the summer, ATL would probably hold out for the Spurs 24 pick plus the Murray haul so they could begin the rebuild with 2 lotto picks (including their own presumably). And if Toronto keeps losing that pick could defer to next season or beyond, leaving SA without any lotto picks

    The other credible bidder for Young would be the long speculated Wolves trade for Towns. Minnesota might want the cheaper Young and Conley is close to the end.
    Then let them hold out until after the draft...

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    Spurs fans: Young is good offensively, but we want a PG who can also play defense, but not Dejounte cause he posts on instagram.

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    Mew Spotrac trade machine. Still in Beta but will likely be way better than ESPN's.

    https://www.spotrac.com/nba/trade-machine/

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    I know all the drawbacks of Young, but I'm sick of all the half measures and hopefuls and Wembanyama is too good already to rely on those.

    If he tries to force his way out this off season and wants to come here, offer the Murray package back to them, plus Collins, Jones, Graham and maybe one more 1st for him and Capela.

    Then target Risacher in the draft and Burks or Wright in free agency . . .

    Starters: Sochan, Risacher, Wembanyama, Vassell, Young

    Bench: Johnson, Capela, Burks or Wright, Champagnie, Wesley, Branham, Barlow, Cissoko
    you are tired of half measures and hopefuls so want Young.

    Nevermind, what it would take to get him.

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    One thing that I just noted that is worth keeping in mind in regard to any trade with ATL.

    They have a likely-to-convey Lotto pick from SAC due to them this year that turns into 1-12 protected next year and 1-10 protected the year after. SAC is currently in 7th, but tied in the loss column for 5th in the west.

    ATL may not be looking for another pick in 2024, or if they did want the TOR pick on draft day, maybe you could get the SAC pick back.

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    I wonder how much it would cost to get De'Andre Hunter from the Hawks.
    If ATL is keen on cutting long term salary, could he be had for expirings and a single quality FRP?

    I feel that dude desperately needs a change of scenery, and his contract is very reasonable for the position he plays.

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    Meanwhile, I just came across this idea on RGM: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/vie...?f=2&t=2351905

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    I wonder how much it would cost to get De'Andre Hunter from the Hawks.
    If ATL is keen on cutting long term salary, could he be had for expirings and a single quality FRP?

    I feel that dude desperately needs a change of scenery, and his contract is very reasonable for the position he plays.
    I'm sure he is available for a first and expirings, he's been a massive disappointment and is hurt all the time

    I've considered him as part of a deal to get Young, having to eat Hunter's contract to get the deal done

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    Judging by the handful of comments, seems like this hit the rare feat of being universally hated by both sides.

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    Judging by the handful of comments, seems like this hit the rare feat of being universally hated by both sides.
    So far, the only person talking about it from Washington's perspective thinks the Wizards should be getting more picks for Deni and that Poole has positive value.

    Conventional wisdom is that if both sides are unhappy it's probably a fair deal. I would bristle is someone told me that wisdom holds here because of what I consider to be a horrible take from that Wizards poster.

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    I largely hate it because it includes Jordan Poole and an untouchable Spurs asset (ATL '25)

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    Terrible. I want nothing to do with low bbiq chucker Poole, or including any 25 FRP.

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    Love that you called it weird instead of calling him a ing moron

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    Love that you called it weird instead of calling him a ing moron
    That's what you have to do to survive on RGM with those mods.

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    Lmao that is an awful deal for SA on what planet is Poole a positive with his deal/play let alone enough to give up two lottery picks for

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    I wonder how much it would cost to get De'Andre Hunter from the Hawks.
    If ATL is keen on cutting long term salary, could he be had for expirings and a single quality FRP?

    I feel that dude desperately needs a change of scenery, and his contract is very reasonable for the position he plays.
    Hunter is ing awful, and one of the worst defenders on a bad defensive team.

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    If Johnson has to be plugged in (in place of some draft capital) to fill the "good, young player" role in the package, so be it.

    you are tired of half measures and hopefuls so want Young.

    Nevermind, what it would take to get him.
    Not sure what's funny about that. Virtually all of the names kicked around here in recent months fit that description, but really wouldn't solve the issue long term.

    Only the Thunder and Jazz can outbid the Spurs, but the former has no use for him and it's probably unlikely the latter would get involved, especially if he makes it clear he'd have no interest in being traded to them.

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    I wonder how much it would cost to get De'Andre Hunter from the Hawks.
    If ATL is keen on cutting long term salary, could he be had for expirings and a single quality FRP?

    I feel that dude desperately needs a change of scenery, and his contract is very reasonable for the position he plays.
    Hunter has the same defensive rating as Trae Young

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    Hunter is ing awful, and one of the worst defenders on a bad defensive team.
    I think that’s largely the ATL factor though. After Jollins, he is the Exhibit A of the BS Trae “hasn’t gotten the help he deserves” narrative. A change of scenery would do that guy wonders.

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    I think that’s largely the ATL factor though. After Jollins, he is the Exhibit A of the BS Trae “hasn’t gotten the help he deserves” narrative. A change of scenery would do that guy wonders.
    The problem is, he’s already getting paid,and you’re hoping he comes around to be something. That’s a quick way to strangle your cap.

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    I see more inferior assets in exchange for inferiors players trade scenarios. Weird fascination.

    Its much better to keep the cap clean or add a bonafide star than adding guys like Hunter or Murray. People need to aim higher or save the ammo.

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    I see more inferior assets in exchange for inferiors players trade scenarios. Weird fascination.

    Its much better to keep the cap clean or add a bonafide star than adding guys like Hunter or Murray. People need to aim higher or save the ammo.
    For who? What free agent is signing here?

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    For who? What free agent is signing here?
    The cap and contracts are also used in trades. If you get stuck with a $100M stinker like Hunter’s deal, that is on your cap for four years, unless you pay someone to take it.

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    For who? What free agent is signing here?
    We can trade for a star and wont have to match salaries. Huge incentive for another team to deal with us.

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    The cap and contracts are also used in trades. If you get stuck with a $100M stinker like Hunter’s deal, that is on your cap for four years, unless you pay someone to take it.
    Don't think the spurs are going to build a compe ive team by just sitting around with a bunch of cap space waiting for situations like this to occur.

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