Not saying you're wrong but major overhaul is easier said than done.
Some fa classes are not strong. We can trade picks for players but we won't get a doncic from it unless he wants out.
So there's a risk we end up like rockets. Where they aggressively went for fvv and some others then end up being mediocre.
I don't get the Vassell hate, he's still on his rookie contract figuring out how to get to his spots and play with Wemby. He can be a decent 3rd option and should still improve. I'm just disappointed at his defense. Everybody else can go. Sochan has potential, Tre Jones is a decent back up, Keldon is alright as a bench piece, Bassey and Champagnie are 3rd stringers on good contracts. They should also keep Barlow, but yes everybody else needs to gtfoh.
1- Sengun is not Wemby
2- FVV was a bad decision, their youngsters may not be as talented as expected.
Other than the typical, can they shoot and defend, I would put passes around Wemby. I would ask my scouts if the player is a good passer for his position.
On the team thus far, only Jones, Collins, and Sochan are or could be plus passes for their position. Vassell isn't. Johnson at times is but mostly isn't. Brehnam and Wesley are unlikely at this stage. Barlow could be. Bassey no. Champagnie no. Cissiko, could be.
Wemby will be such a nightmare when his team mates can create a advantage then make the right pass. He is a lob threat at all times. One of the most under appreciate skills the warriors had. So many great passes on that team.
Keepers:
Wemby- duh
Tre- fantastic player for our roster. He gets a serviceable 3 pointer and he will be the best back up in the league
Sochan: He’s too young to be going anywhere. But please put him in a situation to succeed. No more of this experiment bull where people jump on me for the obvious.
“Well Pop knows more about basketball than you.”
”Pop thinks he can be a point guard so might as well try it.”
”Tall ball”
“We aren’t trying to win games anyways so what’s wrong with the experiment?”
”what do you know about player development. Are you a coach on the team?”
My personal favorite: “give him 3 years to be a point guard. You’re too short sighted.”
And plenty of other dumb I had to suffer through during the first half of the season. Give him very specific goals for him to work on during the offseason. Spot up 3s and defensive rotations. That should be his focus. With some dribbling drills in there too.
Vassell or KJ. We need to keep one of these players. They both bring offense and no defense. They both have very real weaknesses as offensive players. Devin refuses to pass and will jack up horrible shots, and KJ thinks it’s ok that his only move is to barrel into people. They’re both completely different human beings and bring a different at ude to the team. Yet they are both bench players ideally. KJ is a bench player for life. He’s played long enough and that’s his role. Vassell you hope can become a starter but he might just be like KJ. We don’t know. But we don’t need TWO bench players being paid twenty something million a year.
Trade: Osman and Doug. Get those SRPs baby.
Cut: Collins. He is on a horrible contract. We are paying a back up center 15 million a year going forward. Yuck. That’s like 800% more than the market dictates.
Branham needs to go. We have so many draft picks and it’s a cut throat business. He’s out
And pretty much the rest of our roster tbh. We don’t need all this youth on our team. Cut them for professional basketball players please
Develop: Wesley. He can be intriguing going forward. I don’t really believe in him but I’ve been wrong before and he’s a player where if I am wrong then he’s nice to have on our team
It’s hilarious that they aren’t even a play in team, and don’t look to be one. talk about bad timing. Their pick this year is a last chance 1-4 protected FRP to OKC. WHY would you not tank one more year and keep that pick? I’m sure they thought they were being cute by supposedly loading up to make the pick bad, but it didn’t quite work out that way.
One of the reasons I’m anti Ja’Kobe.
^ this actually explains a lot. Even with a crappy D, the 3 point shot these days probably allows meh teams to eke out bull wins (see Indiana) that they wouldn’t have had in a different era. Spurs don’t even have the tools to pull out those BS wins that would have them closer to 13 wins now. Not that is matters.
Seans thoughts about the year
If things go on this way we for should have at least a top 5 pick this year. Possibly o other top 10. Then 2 high second round picks. Imho it all depends how our FO values next draft and our position after the lottery. In theory, 2 top 20mdrsfy picks should be considered, if not traded for veterans, a good starting point for a ok c like model... We have our number one and Vassell could be or be traded for another starting five player, while KJ as a sixth man is not an horrible option... Let's consider that not only this year was supposed to be a lottery year (most projections has our team as the worst) but that has been painfully obvious from the beginning that the focus has been on finding out the players in our roster capable to be part of next year's roster... I don't see a resin (except for the obvious anger by our best man Wemby) to be disappointed... Season is going exactly as planned. On any case with no high draft pick you have no chance to draft very good players... Let's just hope to find out the right players in next draft... Because it's clear we have no interest in paying an aged star that could probably take more problems than benefits or players very good but with clear weaknesses (except if the price is extremely convenient).
Honestly everyone except for Victor have to be available this off-season. Anyone claiming otherwise is an idiot. Sochan is a talentless fool, I find him very unlikeable as a player and person, as with Keldon, Vassell is a one trick pony that is not very good at and needs to get a haircut. Sochan and Vassell have to be the 2 worst looking goons in the league. SA is full of 'look at me I'm a millionaire getting payed to play basketball people' instead of actual NBA quality professionals. Victor Wembanyama is the only player who should be guaranteed anything beyond this season. Spurs need to start again. Starting with a lottery pick this year. Everyone else needs to be moves on from. Including the most overrated coach in the history of professional sports
One would think you’re a boomer with this ridiculous screed…
Everyone knows flashy hair impacts fg %
It's all true. Ok in your humble opinion tell me who except from Victor should we keep on and why?
Yeah, that Ja Morant can’t do anything on the court…
The reasons why shouldn’t involve their looks or hairstyles.
I don’t think you move Vassell unless you’re returning a clear all star and not attaching additional starting rotation players. He’s a piece worth keeping around.
Keep Into Next Year:
Wemby
Jones - low/mid tier starting PG, cheap, expiring deal next year. Easy to throw into backup role if someone better comes along
Sochan - cheap, intriguing intangibles, fits next to VW even if not at PG. Lots of weirdness with the PG thing but still reminiscent to me of a young Andrei Kirilenko
Cissoko - costs almost nothing to keep and develop in Austin
Deals we should be shopping this and next week:
Devin - Neat young piece on an OK deal that could help a team with established stars, but at this point not likely to become a #2 on a team that wants to win playoff games. Poor man's Kris Middleton is not the robin to Vic's batman
Keldon - Pop can say Manu all he wants but he's clearly just a one note player on offense and horrible defender. You don't move to the bench "like Manu did" on a 15 win team, sorry. Package with Vassell
Collins - Starting C money to a guy who is getting smoked in a backup role. Liked the idea but Vic's perimeter game has yet to translate. Likely salary filler or would need to pay someone to take. Blows my mind that he's shooting 30% from three. Feels more like 10%
People who we want to believe will be traded for 1st rd picks but will likely expire or be bought out:
McBuckets
Osman
Dime a dozen players to hold on to if we can't fill out the roster:
Malaki
Blake Wesley
Champagnie
Barlow
Goodbye
Bassey
Mamu
Graham
How do people feel about Tobias Harris as a FA target and Risacher / Topic as your 2024 draftees. Do you feel better about the roster going into next season? That might get you in the play in with capital to trade for a FA before 25 draft or get another difference maker if Atlanta sucks enough.
I like Tobias at the right price. He’s making $37M this year, but would have to play for a fraction of that at age 31. If he would sign something like McDermott did,I’d be down. Philly will probably just overpay and keep him, though. They already did once. This could be a place to spend a CHA pick,plus some seconds, or a CHI pick if Philly isn’t wanting to pay him and also doesn’t want to see him walk.
I think the main assessment for the team so far this season is that Wemby is clearly a Center, and ready to dominate the position now. We don’t have to putz around with him at the 4 and wait 2 or 3 years for his body to fully develop to man the 5. This realization could move up our timeline a year or 18 months, imo.
I see 3 other keepers - Vassell, Sochan, and Tre at the backup pg. So we need like 3-4 quality pieces to construct a playoff team. Let’s continue the tank this season and get one of those pieces in the draft (Risacher or Williams). Any FA’s that look like a fit this summer (would Demar come back in a 6th man role?). And currently all signs are pointing at Trae Young as that attainable Allstar we could grab at next season’s trade deadline. A year from now we could roll out a Wemby/Sochan/ Risacher/Vassell/Young starting lineup with Jones/Derozan/Vets/picks rounding out the bench. I really like that team, don’t love it, but I could see it going deep in the playoffs in a couple of years.
No sane team will do that
Not just their looks but their whole personalities scream 'hey look at me I'm a sports player, specifically basketball player, and I'm on TV tonight hi mom, hi i dad it's me your son. And yes everyone except for Victor should be available. Explain why not
Last edited by Russo21; 01-26-2024 at 01:49 PM.
I think this is a pretty decent approach. Someone like Harris or Gordon Hayward.
I still think if you execute that FA signing and draft exactly like you spell out, you still have two more signings/trades you need to make in order to jump into the play-in (or above). Still need a starting PG (Topic is going to take multiple years to develop) and a backup SG. Branham/Champagnie isn't going to cut it.
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