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The Primo pick was bad because Sengun was right there. We have no idea what Primo could have been if he didn't yanky out his wanky. He lost two years of development that have to be accounted for in retrospect.
I would agree that outside of Primo I don't think the picks are terrible when viewed in a vacuum and I don't spent time wishcasting that we had taken Haliburton, Sengun or Jalen Williams instead (though that would be a decent team right there).
What I do take exception with is the notion is that the rebuild is just starting and that we need several more years of lottery talent before we start expecting the playoffs. There are three lotto picks on the team right now, a fourth (likely) and maybe a 5th coming this summer. Wemby isn't in need of multiple years of development, he is already there and will only continue to get better. Our fanbase and the lame ass media that covers the Spurs should have higher expectations starting next season. Most seem to agree that the tanking ends this season, which is good. Let's see if the Spurs FO agrees. Unfortunately I'm prepared to be disappointed.
The Primo pick was bad because Sengun was right there. We have no idea what Primo could have been if he didn't yanky out his wanky. He lost two years of development that have to be accounted for in retrospect.
I think your frustrations illustrate why so many people on this board were advocating to blow it up earlier. For the first 2 of the last 4 years of "rebuilding", the spurs were basically caught in no man's land as a treadmill team; too good to truly get a high lottery pick, too bad to actually contend. Now, maybe Brian Wright decided to blow it up when he did because he saw a generational prospect coming down the pipeline and didn't want to ruin his chances at that. That's the generous interpretation. Or, more realistically, maybe Brian Wright was too inept to recognize that blowing it up was the right move until the team had basically wasted 2 years as a treadmill team. Regardless, I really count rebuilding from when the spurs decided to clean house and truly bottom out which many on this board were advocating for and we can only really fault the team for waiting such a long time to finally pick a direction.
Since the decision to blow it up, the front office has done reasonably well I think. Their worst move has been the Collins extension, which because it's only 2 years isn't a devastating contract like the Poole or something. I didn't love either the Branham or the Wesley picks, but at least Wesley has been showing some promise. They've hit a home run with the Dejounte trade. Sochan looks like he's developing nicely. If you look at where the team is now, it actually tracks pretty well with the timeline of OKC after they bottomed out. We'll probably win 30-35 games next year and take off the year after next. People are just frustrated because rebuilding is always painful especially bottoming out and I think we underestimate just how talented even bad teams are and how much of a talent gap needs to be made up to even be a middling team in this league after trading/giving away all of your talent to bottom out.
There's no problem being compe ive and stuck on that treadmill. That LMA/DDR team could have been better if Spurs weren't stuck with bad luck. They lost a year because the Leonard trade happened after free agency. This was the biggest mistake.
Murray does his acl. Gasol breaks his foot. If I've got my years right, the Morris back stab happens a season after. I vouched for the Carroll's signing, I didn't know he fell off the cliff during the off season though. The next season, Murray and White were good players and Walker was showing something. But LMA just gives up on basketball and gets waived.
That was only 3 years and it was obvious management was aiming for the 2023. They ran with Murray and boosted his trade value before the real tank began.
If Wright drafts another role player top 10 he'll probably get promoted out of the job in a few years. Seems like the Spurs thing to do. He's done too much good to get fired all together but he's done enough questionable drafting where he might need to go all the same.
The thing with Simons is (and I'd include C. White, a similar player in a similar situation), it's a lot like Murray with the Spurs, to where there's no pressure to trading him anytime soon.
Sure, he's a young veteran on a team early in a re-build that presumably hopes Henderson and Sharpe are their back court of the future, but he's also significantly better than them at the moment, only 24 and signed for 2 more seasons at a reasonable number.
They're also not interested in taking it down to the studs or they wouldn't have acquired Ayton and be supposedly uninterested in trading Grant right now.
That means they'd have to be incentivized aka overpaid (probably 2 quality 1sts and a third one or commensurate young player) and at that point, the Spurs would be better off waiting out Young, Mitc , etc.
Cavs have been looking damn good with Mitc as the primary ball handler. Elite advanced numbers over the last 2 months on both offense and defense.
They should be looking to move Garland for an upgrade at the 3. Over the last 2 years they have basically treaded water in the minutes Mitc and Garland have been on the floor together. It just doesn’t work.
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Wonder if the Spurs could get in on a 3 team deal that’s gets the Cavs a better 3 and the Spurs sent out draft picks and get Garland.
Then you can focus on drafting a wing if you’re the Spurs I.e Risacher, Williams.
Not entirely sold on Garland due to injury history and cost but it’s probably next best option after Trae Young if the spurs want to go down the path of upgrading the 1 through trade and focus on drafting the future 3.
I don't know why some of y'all want Tyus Jones, he's a very small upgrade over Tre. Waste of assets tbh.
well hes a free agent this summer.But like you said hes a upgrade over tre even just by a lil.Hes probably the best fa pg
this summer after maybe iq.
You'd rather re-sign McDermott and Osman? Would be nice to have two decent PG on the roster, especially if they draft someone like Sarr / Williams / Risacher / Buzelis / Holland.
Because Spurs fans love every other player in the league and despise their own. It was always clear Tyus wasn't enough of an upgrade to use assets to acquire.
Strus was a really good signing for them.
Yep. Lights out shooter obviously, but Underrated defender as well.
I'd only give up a couple of SRPs for him if he were under contract (what else you gonna do with all those SRPs?), but wouldn't give anything for him since he's an impending FA. He'd be a serviceable stopgap starting PG, but that's about it.
We already have a serviceable stopgap starting PG. Are people mental? I truly don't understand it.
Try shooting yourself in the head
I listened to a pod cast of a mock deadline (not a rumour), had sixers offer spurs expirings and two distant first round picks for vassell. Thoughts?
Also to add, the person playing spurs rejected. Sighting
*The Spurs won't give to the their second best player for distant firsts as it would send a poor message to Wemby.
*Spurs are 1st pick asset rich
* Vassell would be a hard player to replace.
Depends though. Bc if Embiid loses again in the second round then he might leave the organization. Then those future FRPs would look pretty good
Huh? Why the are we trading Vassell?? Do you hire how hard it is to draft someone who is any good, much less someone who could replace him?
Why would you want to go get a player who clearly didn’t work out as a primary ball handler and, as you said, is already getting paid?
Kevin Durant: It's the only trade machine I use. Made just for me...
Amen. Thanks for refreshing everyone’s recollection. The true rebuild didn’t start until they traded DJ; before then it was just a poor team helmed by LMA, not exactly the paragon of compe iveness and playoff success.
Wright, who was installed ahead of the 2019-20 season, I think has done well in most measures of his job so far.
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