I mean I’m of the opinion that we either trade KJ or Devin. I’d rather keep Devin, but listening to offers for him isn’t a bad thing. He’s a good player. But he doesn’t really change the meter for me especially when there’s a buncha veteran SGs available next offseason. He might improve since he is so young but at the same time this might be all he becomes. We don’t really know.
But if the right offer comes around I am listening to it
Vassell is a good fit on a good contract. Listening is fine and I understand you’re not going to get an all star straight up so he would be a part of a package.
But you don’t move Vassell unless you’re returning an all star level player.
Vassell is your perfect 3rd guy who can be a second option when needed.
We can’t have a revolving door of players to simply ac ulate picks and cast offs.
We have a foundation that should be built on.
literally all this guy does is slobber PATFO, on everyone and their opinions while offering nothing besides lukewarm draft analysis and unhinged responses. Never once have I seen ANY trade proposal, free agent discussion, etc that this chode didn't scoff at
I'm fine with moving Vasell (or anyone else not named Wemby) to improve the team but don't think Malik Monk would be any kind of upgrade and he'd cost just as much without any of Vassell's upside.
Buddy, if someone says we should trade for Tyus Jones when we have a player (who happens to be his brother) who is almost the exact same player, I'm going to say that doesn't make sense.
Now, if you want your jimmies rustled by stupid trade ideas, I can come up with them. Otherwise, I'm going to make fun of people who fell in love with John Collins, who fell in love with Austin Reaves, and similar players, because these are stupid opinions.
Let me know if you'd like some stupid trade ideas from me and I'll let you know how much they'll cost to entertain you. Jesus Christ the people on this board.
Who do you want them? Bc it seems like you are fine with keeping the exact same team going forward and making no changes.
As soon as this teams gets a reasonably better scoring option Vassell's game will open up.
Monk is a step back not forward.
You have to upgrade significantly if you move Vassell.
So, a quick look at what cap space Spurs could have this summer:
- They have $103.1M in guaranteed salaries for 9 players (Vassell, Johnson, Collins, Wembanyama, Jones, Sochan, Branham, Wesley and Cissoko). The guaranteed part of Graham is also included and I'm assuming Spurs waive Graham, Bassey and Champagnie.
- Spurs first round pick should end up between 1st and 6th. Its cap hold will be between $7.5M and $12.6M.
- Raptors pick should be between 7th and 9th if it conveys. Its cap hold will be between $5.8M and $6.8M.
- one or two roster charges (depending on the Raptors pick) should be added. One roster charge is $1.2M.
Spurs will have between $17.3M (if they get picks #1 and #7 in the draft) and $28M (if they get pick #6 in the draft) in cap space. Trades could of course change these numbers but it's where they stand without needing the help of another team to create more space.
Virtually no chance Champagnie is waived and probably only slightly more than that for Bassey.
We have a full 15 man NBA roster, and either 3 or 4 draft picks. Outside of Mamu, those are the most waivable contracts. There’s a reason they were signed to multiple year, non-guaranteed deals. Unless we do a many for one trade, someone or someones will have to be waived.
There is one specific considerable difference between Tyus Jones and Tre Jones, and happens to be one of the primary things that keeps Tre Jones from being considered a viable starting-caliber PG. There is a second considerable difference between them that would go towards addressing one of this team's other primary weaknesses.
What are these two differences? Well, maybe spend less time thinking of guzzling piss and more time using your expert basketball analysis to figure it out, you'd know.
Son of a , I'm in.
if they sign barlow to a deal, i doubt they are keeping barlow + bassey in addition to vic + collins. and i dont think the spurs are going to be attaching assets to collins to unload him
I'm practically president of the Bassey fan club, and I agree he is at high risk of being waived. The injuries have killed him. It's a shame, because you can tell he really enjoys being part of this team, has a great at ude, and is the kind of C we need on this team.
Vassell is going to be killer as a third option. He's only 23 as it is and still developing. He's a 'no trade' in my book. Not even thinking about it unless something wild comes around.
I see no way the Spurs will draft 3 or 4 guys, especially since two would be low-value 2nd round picks. We can consider Graham, Dougie, and Osman to be gone. Mamu is the next guy out, probably. The only way I see Bassey cut is if his injuries truly look bad. Champ is the only SF on the roster without an AARP card.
The roster crunch really isn't this summer, it's the next.
No matter what spurs will have to add "know how to win" veteran presence on that team for next year. No way Wemby will be OK losing that much again. And I'm sure not sure fans will too. Watching Wemby historical season and talent wasted and even undermined (can you beileve that?) because of all that losing is kinda sad.
There's stats like "he's the fastest IN HISTORY to reach x blocks and x points" or he got the second fastest trip dub IN HISTORY AS A ROOKIE and people are like "Meh, he can't make a bunch of sop res or 3 year guys + reclamation projects win"...
the kid is on top of a bunch of metrics in front of superstars and pundits are like: "yeah but Chet is winning with a superstar PG and elite role players around"...
I mean Vic has been putting like 22 and 10 + 3.5 blocks the last month or so in 25-27 minute a game, which is freaking amazing, but people somehow are still disappoiintg because he'e not coaching or GM'ing the team... Dude can't play 1 on 5 and not his fault if the coaching staff decided to put a second yeat PF with zero experience at PG for 20 games or if the FO didn't bother adding at least one valuabe vet on that roster...
A player I would actually consider trading for is Chris Paul. I'd give it serious consideration, and the Warriors have him on the block.
I'm not sure how it would work. Just piling together Graham, Dougie, Osman gives them at least two shooters who could help their rotation right now and save money next year.
I don't want to give up much more. Second round picks, sure. They don't have a pick this year in either round, so one of our seconds. I'd consider sliding in the Chicago pick and obviously the Charlotte pick.
I'm not sure what market there is for him. Washington got Jordan Poole, Patrick Baldwin, an SRP, and a 1-20 protected FRP in 2030. Poole's contract was considered a killer back then.
Now, I don't think CP would like this. I expect he wants to play for a contender at this point (although that's out of his control). His personality is grating, but he did enormously help Devin Booker especially and the other young Suns. He'd run the team like a clock, let Tre go back to the bench, and solve the PG problem through the end of next year.
So, I'd think about it.
Why would Spurs want Paul? Doesn't help long term could harm the tank. Hard pass. The time to buy will be in the summer.
He could teach these kids a ton about how to play and sometimes play dirty.
He also can show to set up players in the most effective fashion. Something this team still needs dearly.
His head, right now, is more important than his body.
I don't think he can play for a while and you're buying low now. Yeah, I guess it ruins the 'tank,' but you've got to do something with the expiring contracts we have. Next year is more important than a few potential draft slots in a poor draft.
Maybe you should shoot yourself in the head
the time to make a move for Paul was in the offseason imo
If he'd buy into that then sure yeah, why not, would definitely help with player development. What he did with the young Suns was amazing.
But that runs against everything he has said/pushed for over the last few years. He is ring chasing, and we don't want to be dealing with an unmotivated frustrated CP.
I'm well aware of a potential roster crunch, but Champagnie won't be part of it and Bassey probably won't be either.
Osman (probably), McDermott, Graham and Mamukelashvili are all goners and despite his contract, Cissoko isn't a lock either. There's also a very real possibility they only have 2 rookies.
imo they choose 1 between bassey and barlow
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