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    F the summer, lol. It’s a no brainer if they think it helps them win this year. They’re in contention, not the 2024 spurs. The more important question is whether Joel is done for the year with his knee, which I haven’t been following closely.
    That's what I was saying. If Embiid's season is over why waste a draft pick for a lost season when they can just sign him in the summer.

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    Will the Bulls get more for a declining DeRozan expiring than the Spurs did for sending him out in a sign and trade?
    Derozan and a second got us two firsts and a second. I don’t think they top that.

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    What on earth is Branhim doing in the game

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    Was he the only candidate?

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    What do people think of Nic Claxton? About two months ago he had a quote saying he wanted to extend with the nets, but yesterday it got out that the nets are listening to offers for him. Maybe his price is now out of their range.

    He’s probably gonna be in the 20-25m range this summer.

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    Derozan and a second got us two firsts and a second. I don’t think they top that.
    One of those firsts could easily end up being a second rounder in 2028

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    The Clippers are not going to trade his vet min salary and no one had an idea he would play team ball like he has.....

    Westbrook 2024 would have been a great add. Certainly better then Kobme Vassell has been for Wemby.

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    What do people think of Nic Claxton? About two months ago he had a quote saying he wanted to extend with the nets, but yesterday it got out that the nets are listening to offers for him. Maybe his price is now out of their range.

    He’s probably gonna be in the 20-25m range this summer.
    I think the two big experiment is done. It did not work for Zollins much less for Clax spacing wise.

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    What do people think of Nic Claxton? About two months ago he had a quote saying he wanted to extend with the nets, but yesterday it got out that the nets are listening to offers for him. Maybe his price is now out of their range.

    He’s probably gonna be in the 20-25m range this summer.
    Great player, but the only teams that he probably makes sense on given his limited range at the moment are Utah, Memphis, and OKC

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    Scottie Barnes and Cade would be the only young players I would be willing to give more assetts than normal, and they probably have untradeable status at this point.

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    Scottie Barnes and Cade would be the only young players I would be willing to give more assetts than normal, and they probably have untradeable status at this point.
    Barnes isn’t going anywhere, but I do think something will have to give in DET between Cade and Ivey at some point

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    The Spurs should be looking to add a bigger wing next to Jeremy and Wemby in the front court. Looking through the standings to see who could be a decent fit with the criteria of being gettable, young enough to be on the timeline, useful etc.

    Deandre Hunter (career 36% from 3 on volume, average rebounder, good size at 6’8, decent defender)

    Patrick Williams (career 40% from 3 on decent volume, below average rebounder, good size, solid defender).

    Jonathan Isaac (career 32% from 3, injury prone, elite defensively).

    Obi Toppin (shocking defender, good finisher and 3 point shooter).

    Really not much out there. Probably better off drafting a Risacher, Cody Williams, Ron Hopland, Buzelis.

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    The Spurs should be looking to add a bigger wing next to Jeremy and Wemby in the front court. Looking through the standings to see who could be a decent fit with the criteria of being gettable, young enough to be on the timeline, useful etc.

    Deandre Hunter (career 36% from 3 on volume, average rebounder, good size at 6’8, decent defender)

    Patrick Williams (career 40% from 3 on decent volume, below average rebounder, good size, solid defender).

    Jonathan Isaac (career 32% from 3, injury prone, elite defensively).

    Obi Toppin (shocking defender, good finisher and 3 point shooter).

    Really not much out there. Probably better off drafting a Risacher, Cody Williams, Ron Hopland, Buzelis.
    The haters would love Isaac. He’d put pop in the grave.

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    The Spurs should be looking to add a bigger wing next to Jeremy and Wemby in the front court. Looking through the standings to see who could be a decent fit with the criteria of being gettable, young enough to be on the timeline, useful etc.

    Deandre Hunter (career 36% from 3 on volume, average rebounder, good size at 6’8, decent defender)

    Patrick Williams (career 40% from 3 on decent volume, below average rebounder, good size, solid defender).

    Jonathan Isaac (career 32% from 3, injury prone, elite defensively).

    Obi Toppin (shocking defender, good finisher and 3 point shooter).

    Really not much out there. Probably better off drafting a Risacher, Cody Williams, Ron Hopland, Buzelis.
    No thanks on Patrick Williams. Spurs basically already have the same player in Champagnie and have him locked up through 25-26 at $3 million a year and with a $3 million a year team option for 26-27. Williams will likely cost 5x to 7x as much when some dumb GM bids against himself to land him because he was the #4 pick.

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    Jonathan Isaac is such a conundrum. He's missed so much time with injuries and has played this entire season on a minutes restriction, rarely playing even 20 mpg, but when on the floor he's elite defensively and in terms of overall impact. A healthy Isaac playing 32 mpg would be perfect next to Wemby (or anyone honestly), but it's so hard to know if he'll ever be able to do that. Just as a fantasy exercise, the idea of a Victor/Isaac/Ryan Dunn front court would have the potential to be an all time great defensive arrangement.

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    I feel like this team needs at least one experienced starter that would ease everyone's development.
    There should be around 55 million in cap space if everyone on expiring deal walks, Granham's contract isn't guaranteed and Collins gets traded.

    My rough idea of what would this summer look like if Spurs were to compete right away.

    Tobias Harris isn't a legit all-star, but he's a high character veteran who'd be the most reliable scorer on our team and isn't that old. Will turn 32 in the summer. Never had any major injuries.
    Would fix a lot of the spacing issues. I'd offer him a 3 year deal. Like 70/3 or something. 60/3 would be ideal, not many teams have cap space.

    Buddy Hield as a 6th man, give him similar contract to what Doug got. 45/3 would be a good deal.

    Then just get Trae if he asks out. Two of their three picks, Keldon+Collins+Branham.

    Draft another wing.

    Trae/Tre
    Devin/Buddy
    rookie/Champ/Cissoko
    Tobias/Sochan
    Wemby/whatever

    Barlow, Bassey or vet min as Wemby's backup.
    Sochan could start at SF, too. Spacing would be good enough.

    Garland instead of Trae would also work.

    Then in two years it would be easy to retool again. And move Devin if he doesn't take the next step.

    If Spurs decide to draft a point guard, then the next season won't be as good. Never is with a rookie point guard, unless we strike gold.

    I personally wouldn't trade any first rounders for players older than 28, unless it's a legit superstar, but I've got nothing against signing older players on 2 or 3 year deals to ease the transition.

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    What do people think of Nic Claxton? …

    Claxton has a career free throw percentage of .543, over five seasons including this one. He’s only useful close to the basket on offense, iow. His effective shooting range is within the restricted zone, about 4 feet.

    But close to the basket, Claxton is good on both ends. He led the league last season in shooting percentage for dunks and bunnies, and he’s a good shot blocker. A good rebounder on both ends.

    He’d be excellent on a team that needs what he offers - a specialist for work close to the basket, where you don’t expect much from the free throw line. Myself, based on what we’ve seen so far this season, I’d rather have Claxton than Collins, despite Claxton’s limitations. Because I’ve seen Collin’s limitations! Lol

    He’s probably gonna be in the 20-25m range this summer.

    Based on what? It’s true that contract prices have been going up significantly, but that seems to be mostly for players who are strong on the offensive end, with range. Claxton is currently paid $9.6 M, and for him to get more than twice that, hm. He’d have to be lucky.

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    5 FRP for Bridges?! That’s wild. He’s not even better than Vassell.

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    Do the timberwolves even have 4 1st round picks? Seems like Washington spreading false info

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    2rds

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    5 FRP for Bridges?! That’s wild. He’s not even better than Vassell.
    my first reaction was: far away from truth
    .. but WAit for a minute: quick stats comperisons per 36/100 pos and results make them more similar then expected. Stats are pretty close. Only stats

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    my first reaction was: far away from truth
    .. but WAit for a minute: quick stats comperisons per 36/100 pos and results make them more similar then expected. Stats are pretty close. Only stats
    Exactly. Mikal is a good player but, as in PHX is best as a second or third option.I suppose a lot of the driver of value for Mikal is that playoff teams want him to be the player he was in PHX (3rd best player on the team) — a finishing piece to a le team. Like Devin, he is definitely not slated to be “the guy” on a playoff team, but would be an excellent Robin. As you note, his stats are similar to Dev while being much older.

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