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    Spurs will sell McDermott Osman and Graham and move along as they should.
    if they cant sell em off i imagine they just end up waiving graham to make room for barlow

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    if they cant sell em off i imagine they just end up waiving graham to make room for barlow
    Worst case they'll trade away Graham for a funny money second rounder that never covey's so they get out of the 2.5M guaranteed next year.

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    Worst case they'll trade away Graham for a funny money second rounder that never covey's so they get out of the 2.5M guaranteed next year.
    who is going to want to take that on for no reason?

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    who is going to want to take that on for no reason?
    Graham is a volume three point shooter who could be a useful bench piece for a contender. Besides very few teams have cap space so 2.5M doesn't really move the needle cap wise all that much.

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    Graham is a volume three point shooter who could be a useful bench piece for a contender. Besides very few teams have cap space so 2.5M doesn't really move the needle cap wise all that much.
    he also hasnt played basketball for like 10 months

    he's going to get waived/bought out if we cant ship somebody out. if theyre able to offload cedi or mcdermott (probably the former who is actually playing at a decent level), then he may hang around until the end of the year and be waived in the offseason

    nobody is trading for him

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    Spurs will sell McDermott Osman and Graham and move along as they should.
    2 of the 3 will be here the rest of the season. Maybe even all 3

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    One problem teams over the tax apron (first or second, don't remember) is they can't pick up veterans who have been bought out whose salary was over the MLE. May have the details wrong. But essentially if Gordon Hayward got bought-out/waived by Charlotte, a lot of contenders couldn't pick him up because his salary was too high.

    That's potentially huge.
    Second apron, and yes, they lose the ability to play the buyout market, post trade deadline.

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    The Utah Jazz are trading Simone Fonteccio to the Detroit Pistons for a 2024 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

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    Kevin Knox, 2024 second-round pick via Wizards and draft rights to Gabriele Procida to go Jazz in deal, sources tell ESPN.
    Last edited by mo7888; 02-07-2024 at 01:09 PM.

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    The Utah Jazz are trading Simone Fonteccio to the Detroit Pistons for a 2024 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

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    Kevin Knox, 2024 second-round pick via Wizards and draft rights to Gabriele Procida to go Jazz in deal, sources tell ESPN.
    Now that the Simone Fonteccio situation has been resolved, this should break open the floodgates of trade activity.

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    Don't know how McDermott would be on the move considering he makes $13.75 million. Same for Graham and his $12.1 million deal. Spurs aren't going to trade them for ~$10 million of dead money contracts just to get a second round pick. Those two are just matching salary if the Spurs make a picks for a vet kind of trade. Osman is cheap enough ($6.7 million) that I could see him end up moving somewhere though.

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    Don't know how McDermott would be on the move considering he makes $13.75 million. Same for Graham and his $12.1 million deal. Spurs aren't going to trade them for ~$10 million of dead money contracts just to get a second round pick. Those two are just matching salary if the Spurs make a picks for a vet kind of trade. Osman is cheap enough ($6.7 million) that I could see him end up moving somewhere though.
    If they're trading to get someone off the hook for salary next year.

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    I’d rather keep Osman and try re-sign him in the offseason.
    We need a few decent veterans here and there

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    If they're trading to get someone off the hook for salary next year.
    This. People still aren’t understanding the second apron. That $10M that Graham’s contract can relieve a team of can make the difference between having your pick moved to the end of the first round and untradeable or not, or maybe losing the pick altogether or not.

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    There was some talk about Spurs finding hidden gems like some other teams did.
    McBride seems to have a lot of potential and could be a solid player.

    Knicks defense is great, but they need some more shooting on the bench.
    Fournier's contract is a team option for the next season, so he's effectively an expiring. $18M.

    I'd give them both Cedi and Doug for McBride and Fournier. Maybe even throw in a second or two.

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    Don't know how McDermott would be on the move considering he makes $13.75 million. Same for Graham and his $12.1 million deal. Spurs aren't going to trade them for ~$10 million of dead money contracts just to get a second round pick. Those two are just matching salary if the Spurs make a picks for a vet kind of trade. Osman is cheap enough ($6.7 million) that I could see him end up moving somewhere though.
    ive been saying this. i think osman is the only one that a team might actually want to trade for to bolster the end of their rotation or something, but he's not going to fetch much at all.

    nobody is trading for mcdermott/graham, unless the spurs are going to sign up for another summer of renting out cap space for cheap picks.

    i think they're going to give barlow a big boy deal. either with the roster spot that osman vacates, or by waiving/buying out graham

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    I think Graham is the one to go since he has been bubble wrapped all year. I also suspect they will try and keep Cedi and wish Doug best of luck wherever he can get a contract from.

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    PJ Tucker looks washed for the Clippers and he has one more year left on his deal. Wish we could get something worthwhile if the Spurs traded Doug for Tucker while taking on an extra year of his contract.

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    If they're trading to get someone off the hook for salary next year.
    For a second round pick? No thanks. Can't see anyone offering a real asset for one year of salary cap relief, and the Spurs can't trade for dead money that'll get in the way of being able to sign someone in 2025.

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    This. People still aren’t understanding the second apron. That $10M that Graham’s contract can relieve a team of can make the difference between having your pick moved to the end of the first round and untradeable or not, or maybe losing the pick altogether or not.
    The pick moving to the end of the first round only happens for teams over the second apron for three years out of five, so not a concern for this year or next.

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    One less suitor in the Tyus Jones sweepstakes.

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    "We have enough second round picks, thanks."

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