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you tank as long as needed until you land your franchise player. nobody is saying we need to trade away all the picks now to try and manufacture a contender next season.
No effectve tanks last one year. The Last team that tried, Toronto went from the lottery, to a 6 seed playoff team to a play in loss, to right back in the . Wemby, while amazing, is just a kid.we did burn it down and tank. and landed wemby. that was the tank
and then the same squad as last year + wemby is playing worse than the same squad last year
you tank as long as needed until you land your franchise player. nobody is saying we need to trade away all the picks now to try and manufacture a contender next season.
Literally half the board is advocating doing just that, vis a vis Trae Young.
"literally" half the board
^ He makes stuff up when he feels cornered / his idol is being theatened.
Adrian Griffin gets run out of Milwaukee for going 30-13 while Lord Poppy sits on the Spurs throne until death.
“[adding a vet would be] a waste of playing time that we must use to develop other players around Victor”
One, that development isn’t going so well. Even the guy he’s using as an example, Devin, isn’t looking too good.
Two, this is just bad talent evaluation. Outside of Sochan, none of these young guys are NBA level players. What’s the point of developing them?
We'll see if this is lip service starting with the draft this off-season. If they draft a culture pick, rather than obvious talent, it will be the same old, rest on their laurels Spurs. Not necassarily a championship, but we need to start winning by next season if we want to stay on path to keeping Wemby for good. I'm rooting for you Pop.
I think OKC is the best recent example of success with this approach, and even the best example has yet to achieve the ultimate goal. Meanwhile there are far more examples of teams who have stayed in the lottery cellar year after year and just continued to suck.
OKC would still be in the cellar if they hadn't been outright gifted SGA by one Kawhi Nephew.
To be fair though, a good interview here by Pop nonetheless. Just hopefully he means what he says.
I’ve been living in London for the last 5-6yearsI know you’re French that’s why I asked where did you live outside France. When you say France is not a club sport country it is true for some sportco like football and basket. As for the media honestly france is not that bad, I lived in Spain, uk, us and brazil. Go watch chirunguito and then come back complaining about rmc
there’s some clickbait everywhere of course but France is so centralised that there’s a lack of diversity and options.
I’m Parisian but I recon the unhealthy networking culture of this city/country and the loss of merit in those type of jobs.
bc the public with decent knowledge in sport isn’t as large as other countries they push the click baiting at its max
again have u listened to the journaleux (^^) ‘ questions that were sent in SA? It’s embarrassing… they sound like kids out of school
Lol the phone by your pillow comment by Pop when asked about the trade deadline was pretty funny. With that said, the dust has now settled, so let's just toss the rest of the season and shoot for a top 3, top 5 at worst, pick. Hopefully the league doesn't punish us for the results generated after winning the Wemby sweepstakes.
Everybody here (including yourself and myself) thought those spurs could reach close to 30 wins, eventually battle for a PO spot, or anyway spurs would win much more adding Wemby, plus organic improvment of the "core". Last yeat they tanked, ignored defense but hey! this year this team can surprise peeps!... Nobody thought that would such a mess again
Kid or not, Wemby is putting bordeline all star numbers wit elite defense and this team still suck, with Devin, Keldon and Tre in their 4th or 5th year. Preaching patience and saying there's a plan is all godd and all, and that's free, but Pop himself didn't expect that and is doing damage control here... There's supposed to be improvement no matter what, speciailly wiht Wemby in. The "plan" this year, on Pop's own words, was to focus on winning more, they're not, we'll see in the future but that's a fail so far.
This ITV is honestly a bit odd. Pop is saying it's about developing "young guys who for some will be around Wemby his whole career"...how many of the current guys they're still "teaching fundamentals" in their 4th or 5th year will actually still be there when spurs would contend? We know Pop's track record for caoching contendng teams with HOF caliber players, he was GOAT category, but he had zero experience taking care of a rebuild before last year, and I feel a bit of delusion or self persuasion in his words...
WTF was that Sochan experience at PG? Who came up with that? The SL hesitations, Collins out, Keldon on the bench, Branham in and out, Champagnie in... and nothing seems to work. Now, Wemby is getting better wiht a real PG at the helm (no !) so there's that, but getting better as the season goes is to be expected for a rookie no matter what. But we're all stupid and don't understand BB...
I don't get why Devin development isn't good. He already surpassed his median outcome which is a 3 and D wing way before his second contract. He is more advance than his high end comps like Middleton and Bridges at that age.
France isn't a sport country. Yes, elite sport is pretty succesful but the sport culture is much more develop and the mass much more educated in other part of the world. Lots of "Footixs" in France.
Also France isn't a sport country ?
And yes, french sport journalists are absolutely terrible... I'lll give you that claickbit stuff may be more develop on other countries, also not that much nowadays, but french "mainstream" media, starting by L'Equipe today, are absolutely awful and totally clueless, saying everything and its opposite from one day to the other, just yelling at each other but still acting like geniuses... They're terrible, arrogant and are just going where the wind pushes them. That's just made up "debates" over empty debates that they dramatize to death to fill up their shows, websites or papers everyday... Everything in the form, no substance. I basically gave up even caring...
great point on age difference in “rookies”. 19 Year Old Tim Duncan performs worse than Wembenyama with this current cast, if we’re being honest
Elite sport is not pretty successful, it is pretty great considering the number of habitants and the diversity of sports practiced (all sport co, snow, football, rugby, olympics without forgetting extreme sports where French athletes are thriving). Now you don't have good elite / professional without a strong base and a strong sport culture.
This is typical French bashing and complaining about just ing everything without recognizing what is great about their country. I am living abroad for the last 20 years, first world countries, third world countries and if you think France is not doing enough about sport or French media are terrible go watch somewhere else. L'equipe is no more or less clueless than gazetta delo sport, AS, SI and don't get me started with ESPN, GLOBO... L'equipe had a major impact on the sport world, L'equipe created the ing champions league, the ballon d'or, le tour de France.
What other part of the world sport culture is more developped ? you have one example the USA, that's about it now you may have arguments about Spain, Germany, Australia but even there France is not ridiculous in terms of culture, structure, incentive neither elite and bases results.
middleton and Bridges aren’t one dimensional players like Devin who aside of his shooting is average or below average in so many areas …
thanks. You put it better than I did
Brazil...
It's a long topic that is related to French history, the fact that sports haven't been used for propaganda the same way it was in most other big (if not all) sport countries.
There's condescending view of sport from the elites in France that prevents any developmwnt (France is almost 3rd world country in club sports despite being 6th ot 7th economy in the world).
Because real sports fans aren't enough to get big audiences, medias have to target mainstream fans with very little knowledge who only react to populist and demagogic takes
It's unwatchable and makes First Take looks like elite reporting
If he were a 3 and D guy, that would actually be great. Unfortunately, he’s not a great three point shooter and he’s not even a good defender. He doesn’t look any better than he did last year.
We're coping hard with Devin.
Most posters believe in him and noone is complaining about the fact that he'll be making 30 million next year, but then they go full on scorched Earth about how Trae is a horrible basketball player and actually a net negative.
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