You're right, I meant bottom 4. But i think Portland is gonna be tanking hard to end this year. They've also got 3 more Ls and I think they're definitely worse than Toronto from a talent and coaching perspective.
The Raps keeping Brown is shocking to me tbh. I feel like his value was at an all time high around this deadline and they easily could have gotten an OK first for him.
Good for us but I really find what the Raptors confusing af as spurraider21 alluded to tbh.
Raptors likely value Browns contract for making a bigger trade in off season Im guessing.
Right : spurs, hornets, wizards and pistons are lock for the top four.
Then you have that injured memphis team, portland and toronto : toronto with the 8th easiest schedule remaining and if they play all their players they will be good imo.
And Portland has the 6th hardest schedule remaining.
Didn't they get Ochai, too?im not sure the raptors got better but at least they aren't tanking. think they might thread the needle and deliver us a top 10 pick
wtf was that olynyk trade?... i mean its a first rounder that will probably be pick 27 or later, but why are they so thirsty for olynyk?
Brown has a team option next year and many teams open up picks after this draft. My guess is there just wasn't what they wanted for him right now.
My uncertain thing with them is trading Schroeder, but they got off salary and I think an asset for him.
At a should be re-building team throwing a lottery ticket in the garbage for a relatively low ceiling, near 24 year old and a 32 year old upcoming UFA.
Are you talking about this trade? The pick they gave up is in the late 20s this year. Right now it's #28.
Yeah, aka a lottery ticket.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
you're so unnecessarily grumpy. he clearly was referring to the late 1 as a lottery ticket
But anytime you can eliminate that possibility to chase being the 20ish best team in the league, you have to do it.
They already have a first round pick from Indiana that is like ten picks better. Clearly they value two guys rotation guys over a rookie in a bad draft picked at #28.
But anytime you can eliminate that possibility to chase being the 20ish best team in the league, you have to do it.
How does it not make sense. I'm not sure why this is difficult to grasp.
A lottery ticket of a pick doesn't mean a pick in the lottery here.
Are you all completely brain damaged.
Shut the up, piss guzzler. If you can't follow along, then simply don't engage. You treat every difference of opinion as some kind of crime against humanity. Do you have some kind of social disorder? Are you incapable of carrying a conversation like a normal human being?
You'd actually be a decent contributor to some dialogues if you could just stop with the histrionics. Crawl out of your mom's basement for a minute and touch some grass, it might do your mood some good.
i know right? there is a lottery and then there is lottery like odds. also lol at the notion of getting a late first round star, those days are over, scouting of players is pretty even based on foreign league scouting. it was dumb post on two levels
You can argue the direction the franchise took (I would have blown it years ago), but the value of this particular trade is very solid. Just Olynyk by himself was probably worth 2/3 2nd rounders by himself, and Agbaji isn't a high end prospect but if they can get him to be a decent role player that's already more than most late first rounders.
Grizzlies put up a fight but go down to Chicago at home. Jenkins has his g-leaguers, rookies, and Jaren Jackson Jr playing well.
The other game tonight with Toronto pick implications is Detroit-Portland. Looks like Brogdon isn't playing. We'd want Portland to lose.
I wonder if Toronto's move for Olynyk means that they averse to tanking this year and would prefer for the pick to convey in 2024. If their pick doesn't convey and the spurs see someone that they like as an additional pick, there might be a deal to made where the raptors would lift the protection on their 2024 pick in exchange for a small asset.
The Raptors have 17 and 31 in addition to having a chance at a top-10 pick. They have plenty of fliers and the cap flexibility to get more during the draft if they want to. The prioritizing of Olynyk suggests Toronto values this season, both potentially as a playoff year if everything works out and as an opportunity to see how Barnes looks as a higher option, how Quickley and Barrett fit in with good spacing and how the younger guys on the team handle higher rotation spots. They've needed competent center play for years now, and Olynyk can help them there in a similar way that an MLE-level vet PG would've had utility on the Spurs even in this lost season. Then as far as fliers go, Agbaji just seems like a guy they like. He doesn't have to have superstar upside to be a decent pick. He might be able to fit next to Barnes and Quickley, or maybe he shows himself to be a valuable role-player and gets traded for picks later on.
I don't think your PoV is that hard to get, but I also think you're being a bit blinded by your Raptors hate if you can't understand the logic here. I get disagreeing with it, but I'd've been okay with the Spurs dumping one of their middle-draft picks for guys they actually wanted during the prior deadline rather than keeping the picks into the draft and then selling them off for cash because they realize they actually don't want four or more rookies on their roster.
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