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They still can this summer. I think his salary counts fully against the team's cap, though, even if the team doesn't have to pay the whole thing if he's cut.
Collins was the Spurs' best player at the end of last year. Clearly his confidence is shot and he's trying to figure out his role. Many teams would be overjoyed to have him. Maybe he doesn't return to form, but once again Spurs fans despise nothing more than their own players or misunderstand anything more than their own players.
They still can this summer. I think his salary counts fully against the team's cap, though, even if the team doesn't have to pay the whole thing if he's cut.
Agree. He’s not a bad player, but with Wemby moving to Center it killed his value for SA. But plenty of teams would be fine with his deal IMO in the right role.
Had me until “many teams would love to have him.” lol if that were the case, we should have just traded him earlier.
Bruno - what is the rule for someone like Graham’s salary in a trade for outgoing purposes? He’s owed only 2.5M if hes waived by July 1st, but if SA trades him before does his full salary get used and then other team can waive him for only 2.5M owed to save money?
If you cut him before 1 july, you clear 9,8 mil in cap space for 24/25
Given that the Grizzlies were in talks for Hayes and can offer a bigger role, I'd imagine he signs with them.
Spurs will be better off continuing to audition Wesley before he's potentially buried for good this off season.
Killian Hayes is one of the worst players in the league. Ya'll really want him on this team??
I'm not Bruno, but I can answer this.
Under the new CBA after this season ends and before his guarantee date (july 1st) his outgoing salary for trading purposes will be equal to the lesser of his current salary and the guaranteed part of next year's, which means it's going to be $2.85 mil. Thus no team would be able to shed salary by waivig him. If anyone wanted to do it they would have had to do it today.
So, no - his contract isn't valuable. It's been a ST fantasy for a while that teams will begin sending valuable picks only to reduce their tax a little.
Trey Lyles was dog for Denver, Utah, and us, and is now a good rotation guy for Sacto. Someone will give Hayes a chance. Who knows.
Crazy how the narratives went from "decent" to "horrendous contract" in 6 months for Zollins... He's certainly having a bad year and getting benched clearly hit his confidence.. He may also experimenting the psychological aftermath of his injury and having to fight to come back and basically playing for his career with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove to himself... There might some unconscious decompression.
Or he just sucks, I don't know.
Turned out to be one of those expensive mistakes
I imagine the league is curious, like Spurs fans, why he gets zero minutes on a terrible team. It's hard to say that improves his trade value.
If he’s being short sighted; Ja, Marcus smart will be ahead of him next year. He might have a legitimate roll here if he plays well.
Couldn't have said it better. It isn't really a great trade asset.
I might just add that Spurs could raise his guaranteed part of his contract to match salaries in a trade. Last summer, Phoenix did that with Chris Paul.
For a guy like Hayes, it's far more about finding a guaranteed contract in the off season. They can give him the best opportunity to do so.
Seems like the Spurs have to give the Demarre Carroll / Thaddeus Young treatment to one vet per season.
Lots of other options for teams to shed salary that via the Spurs' chief towel waver, who is still owed $2.5MM next year. Typical ST fantasy, like BG_Spurs_Fan points out.
We have a backup starting and kid trying to learn the position vs them having more decorated players at the position. I’m not getting your logic.. we have more money to offer plus the France connection
graham's contract is more yucky. for all intents and purposes both graham and mcnuggets were expiring contracts, but graham comes with a 2.5mil cap hit in 24-25 as well. less desirable
It's still better than a two-way player (Gilyard) and a hardship exception player (Pippen Jr.).
Wesley is in the mold of Hayes and the Spurs invested a draft pick in him, so they might as well give him a longer runway rather than blocking him with a further along version.
that would only work if the spurs agreed to take on bad salary for next season. its not clear that their plan is just to rent out cap space again like they did this year
We shall see….
Quiet deadline. Mavs looking desperate here. Wemby-Luka spurs vs SGA-Chet-Giannis thunder is going to be a banger 2nd round matchup in 2027
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