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    SI’s latest (post trade deadline) mock: https://www.si.com/nba/draft/mock-dr...trade-deadline

    Has us taking Cody and Matas
    I would not be mad at that. Two solid wing prospects would really help.

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    SI’s latest (post trade deadline) mock: https://www.si.com/nba/draft/mock-dr...trade-deadline

    Has us taking Cody and Matas
    I wouldn't be mad with that.... 2 of Risacher, Cody, and Matas would be about as good as we could realistically hope for... definitely increases the odds of hitting on a sf/pf combo guy..

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    He might not be Rondo. But there are other successful prototypes in the past. In terms of shooting - the 6'4'' but 6'3'' wingspan JJ Re .. more recently, 6'4'' but 6'3'' wingspan Tyler Herro.. and of course the greatest shooter of all time -Steph Curry, 6'2'' and 6'4''. In terms of defense: Kyle Lowry, 6'0''; 6'2'' wingspan, Fred Van Vleet - 6'0, 6'2'' wingspan.. In terms of slightly taller players who are very good defenders without bigger wingspans - we have Alex Caruso - 6'5'', 6'6'' wingspan and Jimmy Butler - 6'6', 6'7''.

    I dont think the Spurs should just go by physical measurements *alone* to judge Sheppard's worth if he is available at No 7/8th pick. Feel for the game, active hands, good shooting are all useful attributes and he seems to excel in all these three aspects as a freshman.
    I'm not saying he can't be a successful NBA player, I'm saying it's unlikely he'll be anywhere near as impactful on defense at the NBA level as some suggest going by advanced stats at the college level.
    As for the comparisons you list, neither JJ Re or Herro are known for being defensive aces. Caruso and Jimmy are so much bigger and stronger, better athletes, not an appropriate comparison in terms of physical tools. Lowry and Van Vleet might be closer, but again I think both are built completely different, much sturdier. But they're more of an outlier than the norm. I don't think it's unreasonable to project Sheppard as an adequate defender, but I don't see him being ELITE on that end given his physical limitations.

    Also, I'm skeptic about his ability to be a lead guard and initiate offense at the NBA level because he's not fast enough or good enough of a ball handler, but I can absolutely picture him having a long career as a role playing off ball shooter, but I don't think that's what the Spurs need. He'd be great in Charlotte, New Orleans, Detroit, Memphis, and many other teams though. I just prefer a different type of player for the Spurs (like Dillingham or Topic).

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    Interesting.
    Can't say I know much about any of the prospects, but what are the odds of PATFO trading up to get a player they really want?
    Let's say we get the 3rd pick and Toronto's pick is 7th, would trading two picks to get Risacher be worth it?

    If we're in for a wing, it would be the best if Wizards won the lottery, they really need a point guard.
    If we're in for a point guard, then we got nothing to worry about. Pistons, Hornets and Blazers aren't picking another PG.

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    Interesting.
    Can't say I know much about any of the prospects, but what are the odds of PATFO trading up to get a player they really want?
    Let's say we get the 3rd pick and Toronto's pick is 7th, would trading two picks to get Risacher be worth it?

    If we're in for a wing, it would be the best if Wizards won the lottery, they really need a point guard.
    If we're in for a point guard, then we got nothing to worry about. Pistons, Hornets and Blazers aren't picking another PG.
    At #3 and #7 definitely don't trade up. The key to this draft will hopefully be grabbing TWO pieces in the top 8. At #3 if Zac is gone, select Cody. If he's gone, pivot and select your PG (Dilly) and see which SF is available at #7 (currently I like Knecht, and have Buzelis as my second choice).

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    Likely won’t go in the lottery cause that’s good way to get fired as a GM but he’s definitely 1st Round worthy imo.


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    I've had him #1 for a while ahead of Sarr. To me he's the best player in this draft..

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    Likely won’t go in the lottery cause that’s good way to get fired as a GM but he’s definitely 1st Round worthy imo.

    Hilarious how every single highlight here shows him within 5 feet of the rim. Absolutely no “versatility stepping outside of the paint”.

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    Interesting.
    Can't say I know much about any of the prospects, but what are the odds of PATFO trading up to get a player they really want?
    Let's say we get the 3rd pick and Toronto's pick is 7th, would trading two picks to get Risacher be worth it?

    If we're in for a wing, it would be the best if Wizards won the lottery, they really need a point guard.
    If we're in for a point guard, then we got nothing to worry about. Pistons, Hornets and Blazers aren't picking another PG.
    In principle, I'm not opposed to trading up/down as teams see fit, pre-draft order shouldn't be considered as set in stone, if you can improve your chances of getting the results you want you should absolutely do that (like Dallas moving down and still getting Dirk + assets, or moving up to pick up Luka). With that said, I don't know that this is the class for it. There is so much uncertainty with just about every prospect in the top 10 that you could see a scenario where they flourish as easily as one where they flame out. In that context, the best strategy is probably just taking two bites at the apple, unless cir stances change and/or the FO feels really confident about some guy (which is perfectly possible since they have a of a lot more resources than we do)-

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    Risacher's passing looks really nice in that clip, better than I'd seen him.

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    Risacher's passing looks really nice in that clip, better than I'd seen him.
    He’s definitely improved as a passer since the beginning of the season and really overall his beginning to show more as a playmaker. He’s not just the 3&D guy he was being projected as. Still only 18 years old, lots of room for growth there. Could easily see him going #1 overall.

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    Wemby put aside, The lottery (at least, the top 6-7) this year could end actually more interesting than last year's. Much more hype last year, with Wemby, Scoot and the Twins, but seems like you could find some nice, fundementally sound, productive players this year. Don't know about the ceiling but looks like the overall floor is higher this year...

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    He’s definitely improved as a passer since the beginning of the season and really overall his beginning to show more as a playmaker. He’s not just the 3&D guy he was being projected as. Still only 18 years old, lots of room for growth there. Could easily see him going #1 overall.

    Yeah, BBIQ is everything there. The rest should come along.

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    Any online suggestions to catch some of Risacher's games (live)?

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    I see hes moved Matas Buzelis up to #6 as well.

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    SI’s latest (post trade deadline) mock: https://www.si.com/nba/draft/mock-dr...trade-deadline

    Has us taking Cody and Matas
    Buzelis over Dillingham is nuts

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    Any online suggestions to catch some of Risacher's games (live)?
    there's actually LNB games (french league) live right now, but Risacher's team's is playing tomorrow vs. ASVEL (TP's team) at 4:30PM in france. I don't know where you are, but that's 10:30 ET (Washington) in America if I'm correct (-6)... Just find as website that makes conversions from one city to another (Paris to whatever), there's only one time in France

    you can catch the game on a site like that:

    https://livesport24.net/

    just need to enable you VPN to access the site, then click on basketball in the top tab.The game will appear in the list a few hours before tip off. Today's games appear as "France LNB Pro A" starting at 17:30.

    Risacher's game should appear as "Vllleurbane-Lyon--Bourg-en Bresse" or "ASVEL--Bourg en Bresse" at the 17:30 time.

    WARNING, this site time for the games is actually one hour later than in France (probalby based in Eastern Europe), meaning tomorrow's game will appear then as 17h30 (5:30PM) not 16:30, french time (4:30PM).

    you can find all LNB games every week there.
    Last edited by JPB; 02-10-2024 at 01:42 PM.

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    Ariel,

    I updated the post so you can get the name of the teams and find the game in the list.

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    I got Risacher and Dillingham as my top priorities. Williams and Topic as the back up plan. Really hope we can draft 2 out of these 4.

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    there's actually LNB games (french league) live right now, but Risacher's team's is playing tomorrow vs. ASVEL (TP's team) at 4:30PM in france. I don't know where you are, but that's 10:30 ET (Washington) in America if I'm correct (-6)... Just find as website that makes conversions from one city to another (Paris to whatever), there's only one time in France.

    you can catch the game on a site like that:

    https://livesport24.net/

    just need to enable you VPN to access the site, then click on basketball in the top tab.The game will appear in the list a few hours before tip off. Today's games appear as "France LNB Pro A" starting at 17:30.

    WARNING, this site time for the games is actually one hour later than in France (probalby based in Eastern Europe), meaning tomorrow's game will appear as 17h30 (5:30PM) not 16:30, french time (4:30PM).

    you can find all LNB games every week there. Rischer's team is called "Bourg-en-Bresse".
    Thanks. My timezone is GMT-3 (Buenos Aires, Argentina), so US games are usually easier to catch than European ones (let alone Australian games), but I'll try to catch a few to have a more accurate picture of him (beyond highlights)

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    Thanks. My timezone is GMT-3 (Buenos Aires, Argentina), so US games are usually easier to catch than European ones (let alone Australian games), but I'll try to catch a few to have a more accurate picture of him (beyond highlights)
    France right now is GMT+1. So the game should start at 12:30PM (12h30) for you, for your noon meal

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    Buzelis over Dillingham is nuts
    Size matters at the next level despite what the “motion in the ocean” crowd says.

    Also, Dilly ain’t Steph or even Trae.

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