The Parisian Patisserie of Victor Wembanyama

[John B]

DPOY!

[Fizziksman]

Chiefs and Spurs fan get to witness two GOATs

[Pauleta14]

For all those defending PATFO's strategy I invite you to take a listen (from abpit 59' mark) Ben Golliver's take...

[manufan10]

Nice tidbits from ESPN Stats & Info on the numbers behind Victor's triple double:

Here's one quote from the article:

150: There's been no shortage of blocked shots and dimes by the French center this season.
He has 152 assists and 153 blocks this season, the first rookie with 150 assists and blocks in a season since Pau Gasol in 2001-02. Gasol would go on to win Rookie of the Year that season.
Wembanyama's 50 steals also means he's the first rookie with 150 assists and blocks and 50 steals in a single season since Duncan. It took Wembanyama 48 games to reach 150 blocks and 50 steals, the second fewest career games since 1973-74, only trailing Robinson (47).

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...double-numbers

[Pauleta14]

... all that on minutes restriction is crazy

[Trill Clinton]

For all those defending PATFO's strategy I invite you to take a listen (from abpit 59' mark) Ben Golliver's take...

Spurs take an L for not trading for tyus jones or Malcolm brogdon? Yea no thanks. Brogdon's contract is bad and he's already 31.

Tre Jones is a better value than both and has shown the ability to play along Wemby. Neither of the guards they mentioned are worth trading away assets for.

[lefty]

So I compiled the stats and found this :

Victor Wembanyama is the first rookie to record at least a triple double with assists and another one with blocks in NBA history.

Others have done it but they were at least in their 5th season in the league. Full stats :

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (x3)(1973/74, 1975/76, 1978/79) drafted 1969
Hakeem Olajuwon (x2)(1989/90, 1995/96) drafted 1984
David Robinson (x2)(1991/92, 1993/94) drafted 1987
Victor Wembanyama (2023/24) drafted 2023 (ROOKIE)
Joakim Noah (2012/13) drafted 2007
Marcus Camby (2007/08) drafted 1996
Andrei Kirilenko (2005/06) drafted 1999
Nate Thurmond (1974/75) drafted 1963

Victor Wembanyama 2023/2024
2024.01.10 21 min 16 pts 12 reb 10 ast
2024.02.12 29 min 27 pts 14 reb 10 blk

Joakim Noah 2012/2013
2012.12.18 37 min 11 pts 13 reb 10 ast
2013.02.28 45 min 23 pts 21 reb 11 blk

Marcus Camby 2007/2008
2007.12.26 30 min 10 pts 11 reb 10 blk
2008.03.16 27 min 13 pts 15 reb 10 ast

Andrei Kirilenko 2005/2006
2006.01.17 46 min 18 pts 16 reb 11 ast
2006.03.25 40 min 15 pts 25 reb 10 blk

Hakeem Olajuwon 1995/1996
1995.12.13 38 min 15 pts 14 reb 10 blk
1995.12.28 38 min 22 pts 18 reb 10 ast
1996.04.13 32 min 31 pts 13 reb 10 blk

David Robinson 1993/1994
1993.11.09 41 min 43 pts 11 reb 10 blk
1993.12.03 45 min 23 pts 11 reb 10 ast
1994.01.11 37 min 27 pts 12 reb 10 ast
1994.02.08 42 min 31 pts 14 reb 10 ast
1994.02.17 43 min 34 pts 10 reb 10 ast 10 blk

David Robinson 1991/1992
1992.02.04 45 min 23 pts 14 reb 11 blk
1992.03.14 43 min 27 pts 12 reb 11 ast

Hakeem Olajuwon 1989/1990
1989.11.11 42 min 24 pts 21 reb 12 blk
1989.12.17 43 min 32 pts 25 reb 10 blk
1990.03.03 40 min 29 pts 18 reb 11 blk
1990.03.29 40 min 18 pts 16 reb 10 ast 11 blk

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1978/1979
1978.01.24 44 min 27 pts 10 reb 12 ast
1978.01.28 43 min 27 pts 16 reb 11 blk

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1975/1976
1975.11.02 49 min 39 pts 23 reb 10 blk
1975.12.03 46 min 29 pts 21 reb 11 blk
1976.01.06 46 min 20 pts 22 reb 10 ast
1976.03.05 46 min 35 pts 20 reb 12 ast
1976.03.07 42 min 25 pts 17 reb 10 ast

Nate Thurmond 1974/1975
1974.10.18 45 min 22 pts 14 reb 13 ast 12 blk
1974.10.26 37 min 11 pts 11 reb 10 ast

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1973/1974
1973.11.02 47 min 35 pts 16 reb 11 ast
1973.11.03 53 min 19 pts 16 reb 10 blk
1974.01.25 48 min 31 pts 17 reb 10 ast

But I was told by old heads there are not real bigs today and nobody plays defense

[thiste]

But I was told by old heads there are not real bigs today and nobody plays defense

To be fair the stats show it hadn't been done in 10+ years

[thiste]

CAREER HIGHS	PTS	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TRIPLE-DOUBLES
David Robinson	71	24	11	7	12	14
Tim Duncan	53	27	11	8	9	4
Victor Wembanyama	38	20	10	6	10	2

Victor hanging in there already! Not even a season in!

[spurraider21]

talk about breaking through the rookie wall he had hit...

[lefty]

To be fair the stats show it hadn't been done in 10+ years

It's relatively not that far away

[JPB]

Raptors fans

[z0sa]

CAREER HIGHS	PTS	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TRIPLE-DOUBLES
David Robinson	71	24	11	7	12	14
Tim Duncan	53	27	11	8	9	4
Victor Wembanyama	38	20	10	6	10	2

Victor hanging in there already! Not even a season in!

Crazy, he's already beat Tim's single game record for blocks

[SOMA Spur]

Raptors fans

wow. this is hilarious.

[rjv]

CAREER HIGHS	PTS	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TRIPLE-DOUBLES
David Robinson	71	24	11	7	12	14
Tim Duncan	53	27	11	8	9	4
Victor Wembanyama	38	20	10	6	10	2

Victor hanging in there already! Not even a season in!

i think so many forget just how much of a beast david was.

[thiste]

Here's a more apt comparison maybe, their respective rookie season highs (Victor's still going on ofc):

ROOKIE HIGHS	MIN	PTS	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TRIPLE-DOUBLES
David Robinson (24yo)	36.6	41	21	7	5	12	3
Tim Duncan (21yo)	39.1	35	22	9	3	8	0
Victor Wembanyama (19/20yo)	28.4	38	20	10	6	10	2

Younger & with significantly less minutes, what Victor does is nothing short of extraordinary. He compares very favorably with rookie Duncan

[spurraider21]

he'll be making a push for an all-nba team with embiid not being able to qualify

obviously jokic will be first team center. but other guys competing will be Sabonis, Bam, Gobert, Jarrett Allen

[Maddog]

To be fair the stats show it hadn't been done in 10+ years

I think the blocks part is the catch With the emphasis on three's less blocks. Also you as a center are more often pulled away from the rim area

[DAF86]

Chiefs and Spurs fan get to witness two GOATs

Three, if you're me.

[ambchang]

But I was told by old heads there are not real bigs today and nobody plays defense

Which is why wemby got it.

[TD 21]

Here's a more apt comparison maybe, their respective rookie season highs (Victor's still going on ofc):

ROOKIE HIGHS	MIN	PTS	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TRIPLE-DOUBLES
David Robinson (24yo)	36.6	41	21	7	5	12	3
Tim Duncan (21yo)	39.1	35	22	9	3	8	0
Victor Wembanyama (19/20yo)	28.4	38	20	10	6	10	2

Younger & with significantly less minutes, what Victor does is nothing short of extraordinary. He compares very favorably with rookie Duncan

Not by advanced metrics, he doesn't. Of course, he's almost 2 years younger as a rookie, with a far worse team surrounding him though.

[tonight...you]

Three, if you're me.

[exstatic]

i think so many forget just how much of a beast david was.

If you didn’t see him before the ‘96 Olympics ruined his back, you never saw him at all. He was Jordan’s first call for The Dream Team.

[Rocalcio]

Here's a more apt comparison maybe, their respective rookie season highs (Victor's still going on ofc):

ROOKIE HIGHS	MIN	PTS	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TRIPLE-DOUBLES
David Robinson (24yo)	36.6	41	21	7	5	12	3
Tim Duncan (21yo)	39.1	35	22	9	3	8	0
Victor Wembanyama (19/20yo)	28.4	38	20	10	6	10	2

Younger & with significantly less minutes, what Victor does is nothing short of extraordinary. He compares very favorably with rookie Duncan

I’m pretty sure that by the end of the season he’ll have the best numbers in every category

[pad300]

I’m pretty sure that by the end of the season he’ll have the best numbers in every category

I am confident that Wemby will not have the high in minutes played...