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    Topic looks like Cousy when dribbles.

    And it's hard to ignore his great FT percentage, I agree.

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    Collier could also play the two I’m thinking.

    Grab topic and collier = win
    Nah give me Sheppard with the Toronto pick if it conveys and the Spurs take Topic with their own pick, as I doubt Williams or Buzelis will be there by then.

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    Collier could also play the two I’m thinking.

    Grab topic and collier = win
    Collier is very ball dominant. He'd be useless off the ball.

    A Topic Collier backcourt would be a feast for opposing guards.

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    There will be a challenge separating recency bias in evaluating these young players versus, "oh, wow, someone actually had a good 4 weeks of consistent basketball".

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    There will be a challenge separating recency bias in evaluating these young players versus, "oh, wow, someone actually had a good 4 weeks of consistent basketball".
    Often a problem too of overrating prospects simply because they were wrongly hyped before the season started.

    Buzelis will have plenty of opportunities in workouts and combines to suggest what he can do. There's room to move up.

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    Or defenders could just go under the screen since Topic can't shoot.
    Yeah, there’s this guy who can catch lobs all day, even double covered.

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    "39% from 3 over his past 10 games" for Buzelis, well sure but a bit deceiving. He had a nice 4/4 game - 10 games ago. In the last 9 games he shooting 27% from 3, in the last 8 games 25% from 3 - on low volume. So let's not kid ourselves that he's some 40% 3 point shooter lately. But I do really like the kid and he's been moving up my board. Showed a little bit of everything at the Rising stars game (admittedly I only caught the first one). Him and Risacher are the perfect size to slot into the starting lineup at the 3, so I'll continue to root for him as he gets more touches with Holland out for the rest of the ignite season. Hopefully he can truly develop a consistent 3 ball.

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    Buzelis is definitely trending up and I can see why. The Rising Stars game helped his draft stock as well.

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    "39% from 3 over his past 10 games" for Buzelis, well sure but a bit deceiving. He had a nice 4/4 game - 10 games ago. In the last 9 games he shooting 27% from 3, in the last 8 games 25% from 3 - on low volume. So let's not kid ourselves that he's some 40% 3 point shooter lately. But I do really like the kid and he's been moving up my board. Showed a little bit of everything at the Rising stars game (admittedly I only caught the first one). Him and Risacher are the perfect size to slot into the starting lineup at the 3, so I'll continue to root for him as he gets more touches with Holland out for the rest of the ignite season. Hopefully he can truly develop a consistent 3 ball.
    Lol, you're right, just checked. He's still garbage from range.

    Also, he rebounds well but I'm not sure whether that's Inflated due to the G League. Hard to tell, but Kuminga, Scoot, they all rebound in the league about half of what they did in the Godawful League.

    Have no idea how NCAA rebounding stats or Euro stats translate. Like, Cody nor Riz rebound well at all. I've heard the Euro leagues tend to have a slower pace and bigs are probably more valued (no insane rules changes, fewer rebounds to be had).
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    He plays with some force on the offensive end and is skilled. Looks pretty good.

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    These players are not finished products. Harder to evaluate sometimes. The Wemby's of the world are not available very often - the lesser prospects have holes to their game at 18 to 20 Years Old.

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    Collier is very ball dominant. He'd be useless off the ball.

    A Topic Collier backcourt would be a feast for opposing guards.
    They said the same thing about SGA and giddy….. I’d give it a look

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    Okc continuously selects pgs because there will always be a need for ball handling / passing; good pgs can make avg players look good. This might be that rare case where we can grab two elite pgs in those two areas

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    They said the same thing about SGA and giddy….. I’d give it a look
    Lol wut

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    As much as they need primary shot creation, it needs to be someone who's at least a goodish shooter.

    Everything changed with Wembanyama. They don't have time to waste X number of years seeing if a top 3-5 pick, who lacks athleticism to begin with, can become the caliber of shooter (moderate volume spot up 3-point shooter won't cut it) needed to be a modern primary initiator fit for a championship contender.

    Sheppard almost certainly won't be either, but could still be an elite role player.


    Of my top 10, I'd say Risacher and Shephard are pretty close to 'can't' miss as role players. That's probably their floor.
    Exactly. That's why they're the two I prefer the Spurs draft most (if they select top 2 and Sarr is on the board, I'd shop the pick) because it's easy to envision them becoming elite role players.

    Sheppard, in particular, is hiding in plain sight as a White/Caruso/Melton/Brogdon/Quickley etc. type utility guard, who will be 5 minutes into his career and it'll probably be clear he should have went significantly higher than he'll ultimately go because of the obsession with measurables and the perception of "high floor" equating to lack of upside.

    Him and Risacher are the perfect size to slot into the starting lineup
    Height wise, but this team desperately needs some girth.

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    Giddy was considered a ball dominant non shooter coming out but a great playmaker; Not my opinion it’s actually factual.

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    As much as they need primary shot creation, it needs to be someone who's at least a goodish shooter.

    Everything changed with Wembanyama. They don't have time to waste X number of years seeing if a top 3-5 pick, who lacks athleticism to begin with, can become the caliber of shooter (moderate volume spot up 3-point shooter won't cut it) needed to be a modern primary initiator fit for a championship contender.

    Sheppard almost certainly won't be either, but could still be an elite role player.




    Exactly. That's why they're the two I prefer the Spurs draft most (if they select top 2 and Sarr is on the board, I'd shop the pick) because it's easy to envision them becoming elite role players.

    Sheppard, in particular, is hiding in plain sight as a White/Caruso/Melton/Brogdon/Quickley etc. type utility guard, who will be 5 minutes into his career and it'll probably be clear he should have went significantly higher than he'll ultimately go because of the obsession with measurables and the perception of "high floor" equating to lack of upside.



    Height wise, but this team desperately needs some girth.
    Sheppard is also an American White non-center player and those types haven’t been drafted in the top 10 in over a decade unless I’m missing forgetting somebody.

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    Utah, unable to help themselves, might grab Reed.

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    One thing is that people have to be realistic none of these players are close to Wemby when it comes to day 1 starters. I can see maybe the top 3 getting some playing time with the big league and depending how that goes they may stay or be sent down. But for the the vast majority I definitely see most of them spending the whole season in G League

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    Buzelis is giving me a little stiffy but watched Sheppard tonight vs LSU and not impressed.

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    Dilly 2pts 1-6 so far midway through the 2nd half

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    Dillingham is legit. This guy’s a baller

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    Dilly pretty much single handedly put his team in a position to win

    Sensational last 10 mins where he came alive and looked like the real deal

    Concerning play for most of the game but if he can flip a switch like that when the game is on the line it's something you have to look at size issues and all

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    Dilly 2pts 1-6 so far midway through the 2nd half
    This didn't age well.

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