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    Young is fine, he can outscore the other teams PG and gets 10 assists per game. We should also add AD from Lakers as the 2nd twin tower.

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    SI quoting Bleacher Report now. smfh



    This part is also laughable.



    In what universe could the Spurs be a stronger le threat than the Clips next season?

    I guess if the Spurs draft Bronny and get daddy to sign, trade for Young, and get PG13 to sign too then that's a strong contender. Moreso than the Clips who would be without PG13 themselves. But that's one of a parlay.
    Seems pretty obvious that the author was merely pulling out of his ass, just like we all are re Spurs free agent adds.

    Not sure why what anyone pulls out of their ass is any better than someone else’s though. Thus, I have undermined the entire premise of your post simply because I am bored waiting for a flight.

    Edit: my bad I see you had some other substantive points and you were merely dismissing the source out of a sense of obligation.

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    Young is fine, he can outscore the other teams PG and gets 10 assists per game. We should also add AD from Lakers as the 2nd twin tower.
    Why do you want someone who is more brittle than Kawhi?

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    Why do you want someone who is more brittle than Kawhi?
    I want someone that gets 20-12-2.5 next to Wemby, that’s the concept, rather than a man crush on AD. He was merely an example. We need to finish closing off the paint, one shot blocker can’t do that by himself.

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    Edit: my bad I see you had some other substantive points and you were merely dismissing the source out of a sense of obligation.
    I just didn't realize that SI had stooped to the level of basing an article on some Bleacher Report threw at the wall.

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    The same whiners that want a star next to Wemby don't want Trae? What exactly is it that you dweebs want then? You on the young guys like Vassell and Sochan, but don't want a young star like Trae. There's no winning with some fans. They love to hate or love to be contrarians. What market do you think your team is in? Don't act like Wemby is going to make San Antonio into LA. SA doesn't get the opportunity to get big names like Trae. If Spurs don't do all they can to get Trae, the same haters that bag on Trae are gonna blame the organization for not getting him. If they do get Trae, these morons are still gonna whine.
    then the question is can a trio of Young, Vassel and Wemby win a championship ? Because they’ll take pretty much the entire salary cap when you resign Young and Wemby to max contracts

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    then the question is can a trio of Young, Vassel and Wemby win a championship ? Because they’ll take pretty much the entire salary cap when you resign Young and Wemby to max contracts
    Answer is no.

    Short of some Manu GNob 6th man Robert Horry+ bench guys no way.

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    then the question is can a trio of Young, Vassel and Wemby win a championship ? Because they’ll take pretty much the entire salary cap when you resign Young and Wemby to max contracts
    As long as they're starting Champagnie, and playing scrubs in the regular rotation like Zollins, Osman, Branham etc ... It wouldn't matter who the big 3 are.

    Those are cement shoes that no one could overcome

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    As long as they're starting Champagnie, and playing scrubs in the regular rotation like Zollins, Osman, Branham etc ... It wouldn't matter who the big 3 are.

    Those are cement shoes that no one could overcome
    Dev's not a third star so no. He cannot generate open shot's for himself or others and doesn't get to the line. He's a star dependent player who will benefit greatly from Young's playing making.

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    Vassell would be phenomenal as a third threat. Any team would love him.

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    Our beloved Trae Young takes on the raptors in a few minutes.

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    All of you who are anti-trae are on my list, how the can you watch our current team and not only not want a surfire star, but trust our ty ass GM to draft well to surround wemby.

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    All of you who are anti-trae are on my list, how the can you watch our current team and not only not want a surfire star, but trust our ty ass GM to draft well to surround wemby.
    You picked the wrong day to pimp Trae: 11 points (on 4/13 FG, 2/6 3P) and 4 TO in 35 min.

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    You picked the wrong day to pimp Trae: 11 points (on 4/13 FG, 2/6 3P) and 4 TO in 35 min.
    Those stats would still be better than any of the other trashcans we have on this roster

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    Just heard on a podcast that Trae is eligible for extension the summer of 2025, for up to $60M per year ��

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    Those stats would still be better than any of the other trashcans we have on this roster
    Why don't you shoot yourself or find another team? We'd all be better off.

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    Trae Young's Trae Young but a Brian Wright draft pick could be anything... It could even be a Trae Young!

    You know how much we've wanted one of those!

    Then let's jus-


    We'll take the draft pick.

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    Why don't you shoot yourself or find another team? We'd all be better off.
    I'll kill myself when you do it first bum.

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    Trae Young's Trae Young but a Brian Wright draft pick could be anything... It could even be a Trae Young!

    You know how much we've wanted one of those!

    Then let's jus-


    We'll take the draft pick.
    Is Trae also making 5 mil for 4 years.

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    Just heard on a podcast that Trae is eligible for extension the summer of 2025, for up to $60M per year ��
    that’s the main reason why the Spurs shouldn’t go after him. Salary cap will probably be around 145 millions. Wemby will command about the same and with Vassel’s salary, the Spurs will be over the cap and probably 20 millions under the first epron.

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    Trae's salary has been discussed previously in this thread, but not necessarily in terms of the salary cap ramifications.

    Re: Tre's salary - projecting out into the future the issue starts when Wemby's Rookie Supermax kicks in, and you get into the 70%+ range for these 3 guys.

    If we project the cap table out and make a few assumptions (detailed below), then things look like this:

    Year Cap Young 35% Young 30% Wemby Devin % of Cap Trae35% % of Cap Trae30%
    2024 141.0 43.0 43.3 12.8 29.3 60.4 60.4
    2025 155.1 46.0 46.0 13.4 27.0 55.7 55.7
    2026 170.6 59.7 51.2 16.9 27.0 60.7 55.7
    2027 187.7 64.5 55.3 56.3 24.6 77.5 72.6
    2028 206.4 69.6 59.7 60.8 27.0 76.3 71.5
    2029 227.1 75.2 64.5 65.7 37.8 78.7 74.0
    2030 249.8 81.2 69.6 70.9 40.8 77.3 72.6
    2031 274.8 44.1 44.1 76.6 44.1 60.0 60.0

    Some key assumptions:

    • Assumed the cap will go up by the max 10%/year starting in 2025
    • Assumed that Trae will earn a max extension with 8% raises that kicks in starting in 2026. But you can see the impact that 35% v 30% creates.
    • Assumed Wemby will get the 30% rookie SuperMax with 8% raises (this is likely the safest assumption of them all)
    • Assumed Devin balls out and earns a 140% extension with 8% raises when his rookie extension ends
    • Assumed that when Trae's extension ends, and he'll be entering his 13th season, that he'll have fallen off a little and will sign a similar contract to Devin's 2031 number


    I don't know how these "Big 3" percentages of the cap compare to other teams or if this is manageable or completely hamstringing. Of course, the Spurs will have lots of other players who hopefully will have blossomed and earned big contracts during this time with all these picks.

    I don't have any opinion on this at this time, other than to say... this is going to be the case if we go after any Star player via trade.

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    that’s the main reason why the Spurs shouldn’t go after him. Salary cap will probably be around 145 millions. Wemby will command about the same and with Vassel’s salary, the Spurs will be over the cap and probably 20 millions under the first epron.
    2025-26 is when the new TV and streaming deal will kick in so $60 million might not look prohibitive then like it does under the current TV deal. Plus the NBA will do cap smoothing so there won't be a huge jump in the cap for 25-26 that would make the Spurs have to pay even more for him.

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    Vassell would be fine as a 3rd option imo, so long as he continues to improve and becomes more consistent (consistency being the key aspect here). Big "if" there obviously, but he's still only 23 and is likely 4-5 years away from his prime. Wemby + Trae or another All-Star caliber player with Vassell as the third option would likely be Championship caliber in 3-4 years contingent upon the Spurs surrounding those 3 with solid veteran role players who can shoot and/or defend. Guys like KD and Paul George, who will be in their late 30's by then and in the twilight of their careers, might be willing to jump on the train as role players in hopes of capturing a ring before they retire.

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    Trae's salary has been discussed previously in this thread, but not necessarily in terms of the salary cap ramifications.

    Re: Tre's salary - projecting out into the future the issue starts when Wemby's Rookie Supermax kicks in, and you get into the 70%+ range for these 3 guys.

    If we project the cap table out and make a few assumptions (detailed below), then things look like this:

    Year Cap Young 35% Young 30% Wemby Devin % of Cap Trae35% % of Cap Trae30%
    2024 141.0 43.0 43.3 12.8 29.3 60.4 60.4
    2025 155.1 46.0 46.0 13.4 27.0 55.7 55.7
    2026 170.6 59.7 51.2 16.9 27.0 60.7 55.7
    2027 187.7 64.5 55.3 56.3 24.6 77.5 72.6
    2028 206.4 69.6 59.7 60.8 27.0 76.3 71.5
    2029 227.1 75.2 64.5 65.7 37.8 78.7 74.0
    2030 249.8 81.2 69.6 70.9 40.8 77.3 72.6
    2031 274.8 44.1 44.1 76.6 44.1 60.0 60.0

    Some key assumptions:

    • Assumed the cap will go up by the max 10%/year starting in 2025
    • Assumed that Trae will earn a max extension with 8% raises that kicks in starting in 2026. But you can see the impact that 35% v 30% creates.
    • Assumed Wemby will get the 30% rookie SuperMax with 8% raises (this is likely the safest assumption of them all)
    • Assumed Devin balls out and earns a 140% extension with 8% raises when his rookie extension ends
    • Assumed that when Trae's extension ends, and he'll be entering his 13th season, that he'll have fallen off a little and will sign a similar contract to Devin's 2031 number


    I don't know how these "Big 3" percentages of the cap compare to other teams or if this is manageable or completely hamstringing. Of course, the Spurs will have lots of other players who hopefully will have blossomed and earned big contracts during this time with all these picks.

    I don't have any opinion on this at this time, other than to say... this is going to be the case if we go after any Star player via trade.
    Is Young 35% eligible next summer? If you qualify for Supermax once like he did in 2021 are you grandfathered in for life? Or would he only be eligible for the max of 30% for 7 year's service and 105% of his previous year's salary as a base salary for 25?

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    The TV deals will be worse than expected, I fear. The media landscape is changing and not to the benefit of the cap.

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