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    I can understand you're an idiot.



    No, he didn't have what he wanted in 2014.

    You think he wants World War III with NATO?

    His aggression against weaker countries (NOT NATO) won't stop even if he is totally defeated in Ukraine.

    And he won't be. You already admitted that.
    If we the bed here and you help get Trump elected again like you keep hinting, Putin absolutely will start ing with NATO members.

    It will all be on fools like yourself.

    Because you never learned.

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    Absolutely. Pity you can't understand.

    That's what you thought in 2014. He got what he wanted then negotiated.

    What happened?

    It just gave him more time to prepare for this.

    He wants all of Ukraine.

    And he doesn't want to stop there.

    You will be enabling him.
    Yes, it's Putin's/Russia's dirt. It'd been robbed from him/Russia. He's got 20% of that dirt back and counting, Dumps.

    Let us proceed...

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    If we the bed here and you help get Trump elected again like you keep hinting, Putin absolutely will start ing with NATO members.

    It will all be on fools like yourself.

    Because you never learned.
    - "Promises, promises."

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    Putin is already talking claiming Latvia is mistreating ethnic Russians and that it affects Russia's national security.

    Does this sound familiar to you?

    Rube.
    ...yes. Like Biden claiming that Russia was "mistreating" Ukrainians so he sent them a Wells Fargo bank draft for $100 billion and a gaggle of F-16 fighter jet with real U.S. Naval Aviators in attendant pits.

    tee, hee.

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    You want to spend another $100 billion or maybe $500 billion knowing they can't liberate all their territory?

    Yeah, that's real smart.



    He has what he wants now... what he's always been after. That's why he wants negotiations to end this.
    If that is Putin's (means to an end WITH ALL HIS DIRT HANDED BACK OVER) I can brook it. Otherwise, if he just came for that 20% then he's nothin' but a hound dog, cryin' all the time.

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    Your wishful thinking isn't a foreign policy.

    Ukraine can't liberate all its territories. You know that -- the only path forward is negotiations that can save lives.
    You, Dumps, Me and most importantly, Putin knows that. It's his wheelhouse.

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    If we the bed here and you help get Trump elected again like you keep hinting, Putin absolutely will start ing with NATO members.

    It will all be on fools like yourself.

    Because you never learned.
    I'm not voting for Trump under any cir stance.

    I'm still trying to figure out what your plan for an endgame here is. You know it's unrealistic that Ukraine will take back all its territory, and yet you want no negotiations whatsoever. Well what is the endgame then? A perpetual conflict paid for by us is what you appear to be describing...

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    Arming Ukraine is smart foreicn policy.


    negotiating with Putin.

    Like in 2014?

    Turns out that was just wishful thinking.
    & turns out that was the magic Negro Hussein on the case. I'll borrow your ROFLMAO little feller...

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    Hinting? I'm not voting for Trump under any cir stance.

    I'm still trying to figure out what your plan for an endgame here is. You know it's unrealistic that Ukraine will take back all its territory, and yet you want no negotiations whatsoever. Well what is the endgame then? A perpetual conflict paid for by us is what you appear to be describing...
    His endgame is the seat of his pants---fingers, toes, eyes crossed that somebody gets to Putin like somebody got to JFK.

    eh, Dumpers?

    Yeah.

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    I'm not voting for Trump under any cir stance.

    I'm still trying to figure out what your plan for an endgame here is. You know it's unrealistic that Ukraine will take back all its territory, and yet you want no negotiations whatsoever. Well what is the endgame then? A perpetual conflict paid for by us is what you appear to be describing...
    Trump made President, that's where.

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    I'm not voting for Trump under any cir stance.
    No, you'll end up making some bull protest vote which is a vote for Trump.

    I'm still trying to figure out what your plan for an endgame here is. You know it's unrealistic that Ukraine will take back all its territory, and yet you want no negotiations whatsoever. Well what is the endgame then? A perpetual conflict paid for by us is what you appear to be describing...
    As long as the Ukrainians want to resist and drain Russia of its money and military capacity and imperial will, we should absolutely give them the means to do so.

    negotiating with Putin

    This time will be better because I think Putin will negotiate in good faith and stick to the agreement because reasons!

    Peace in our time!

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    No, you'll end up making some bull protest vote which is a vote for Trump.


    As long as the Ukrainians want to resist and drain Russia of its money and military capacity and imperial will, we should absolutely give them the means to do so.

    negotiating with Putin

    This time will be better because I think Putin will negotiate in good faith and stick to the agreement because reasons!

    Peace in our time!
    ...Dumper rolls over on hisself>>>>>>>>>so he can sleep tonite. President Trump demolishing the broad on the coast has him a bit down in the dumps.

    tee, hee.

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    If we the bed here and you help get Trump elected again like you keep hinting, Putin absolutely will start ing with NATO members.

    It will all be on fools like yourself.

    Because you never learned.
    Borders open is more damaging to this country than Putin ever will be,,,,that is fact. Just look at the economic impact of the millions of illegals coming in,,,so with that being said,,,,are you gonna vote Biden and the further demise of the country just because you hate Trump, chumper?,,,,yes or no?

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    I'm not voting for Trump under any cir stance.

    I'm still trying to figure out what your plan for an endgame here is. You know it's unrealistic that Ukraine will take back all its territory, and yet you want no negotiations whatsoever. Well what is the endgame then? A perpetual conflict paid for by us is what you appear to be describing...
    Why are you so anxious for endgame? (What ever that means)

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    Borders open is more damaging to this country than Putin ever will be,,,,that is fact. Just look at the economic impact of the millions of illegals coming in,,
    Post the economic impact of the "millions" coming in.

    Positive and negative.

    All your numbers.

    Let's look at them like you offered.

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    Why are you so anxious for endgame? (What ever that means)
    So I can watch Biden take it up the blow hole. Then? Well then, clammy, the lamentation of the women.

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    Borders open is more damaging to this country than Putin ever will be,,,,that is fact. Just look at the economic impact of the millions of illegals coming in,,,so with that being said,,,,are you gonna vote Biden and the further demise of the country just because you hate Trump, chumper?,,,,yes or no?
    Nonetheless I want Putin to bust that Ukrainian hole & that Biden hole. I'd let every holer in this world to take root in here if I got those 2 busted holes granted.

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    Post the economic impact of the "millions" coming in.

    Positive and negative.

    All your numbers.

    Let's look at them like you offered.
    Look at the in' Dumper...truncates Hemi's post to fit his .

    Ya little ter you.

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    Your CNN reporting:::

    [[[Ukraine was hit overnight Saturday and early Sunday with a fresh wave of missile and drone strikes across the country, although the number of casualties appears small.]]

    ​...tee, hee.

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    As long as the Ukrainians want to resist and drain Russia of its money and military capacity and imperial will, we should absolutely give them the means to do so.

    negotiating with Putin

    This time will be better because I think Putin will negotiate in good faith and stick to the agreement because reasons!

    Peace in our time!
    They're draining our money and military capacity too, idiot.

    Obviously, you're not the one fighting either, tough guy. You sound like a neocon who wants a forever war.

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    They're draining our money and military capacity too, idiot.

    Obviously, you're not the one fighting either, tough guy. You sound like a neocon who wants a forever war.
    The exact same arguments as before as if they ad not been rebutted directly and extensively.

    You know damn well there is no fiscal impact as you were shown the fiscal denominator and variance while being complete incapabl of pointing out any of your alleged impacts.

    Of course there was the discussion of how they are not getting this stuff for free or how their are costs associated with letting UKR fall too You never really acknowledged those you just waited to repeat yourself it seems.

    As for out military readiness, this is patently stupid. If we were sending them our F-35 fleet that would be one thing but we are not even sending them F-15s. We are not sending them the brand new weapons systems. They are buying what we replaced.

    And the ammo shows how ignorant you are. We were able to mobilize our ammo production in less than a year which should have any potential nations thinking they can just run over the world think twice. Let me know when we run out of salt peter.

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    They're draining our money and military capacity too, idiot.
    We can buy more. We have the money. All we need is the will. I can see you lack any resolve for anything important. You want to be cute and flexible with your principles, contrarian to make yourself feel like an iconoclast. It's a certain narcissism that affects a lot of people in different ways. You're not the onlt one here.

    Obviously, you're not the one fighting either, tough guy. You sound like a neocon who wants a forever war.
    As long as the Ukrainians want to resist and drain Russia of its money and military capacity and imperial will, we should absolutely give them the means to do so.

    You sound like an appeaser who wants to give every dictator everything he wants, Neville.

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    it's always been about the survival of the country.

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    They're draining our money and military capacity too, idiot.

    Obviously, you're not the one fighting either, tough guy. You sound like a neocon who wants a forever war.
    He knows, 7, he's just desperate to win this,,,not as desperate as that sucker in the WH, but close.

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